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    Now the government owns a car company. The government is political and only political. Decisions in the company that used to be made based on the market and market forces will now be made based on politics. If it is politically expedient to make corvettes in green thats what will be done. If it is politically expedient to discontinue the line, thats what will be done.

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    The ability to survive belongs to the GM execs and they should keep that in mind. They will be responsible if they fail.

    The gov wants gas consumption down because of the middle east problems. This has been going on for years and that is not the gov either. We did that. Stop buying gas guzzlers for daily use and the middle east becomes irrelevant. The regulations will or should not effect special interest cars just daily drivers.
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    Ken.... How wrong you are. What we have here is a bunch of Lib/socialists who have hit the socialist lottery. They will never let "let a good crisis go to waste" as they have said. In addition to the normal blab about saving the planet, they are now in a position to be vinditive. And YES they will take advantage of it!! Truly a dream come true!!! This is the "perfect storm".

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    Not I that is wrong. With all that is going on in the world the last thing anyone in washington wants is to run GM. GM wants to borrow money and the Gov has set the rules for the loan. SMART BUSSINESS. It is up to GM to be succesful. With Iraq, Inra, Israel, Pakistan do you realy think anyone in washington wants to take over GM?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ken mohr View Post
    Not I that is wrong. With all that is going on in the world the last thing anyone in washington wants is to run GM. GM wants to borrow money and the Gov has set the rules for the loan. SMART BUSSINESS. It is up to GM to be succesful. With Iraq, Inra, Israel, Pakistan do you realy think anyone in washington wants to take over GM?
    That is exactly what the president said last week. I am glad you bought it, but I do not. This entire adminsitration is about the control of every facet of our life. Just listen to any of his speeches. Owning control of GM gives them power which is what the game is all about!! If owning the car companies is what they have to do to satisfy their UAW croonies and make "green" cars, so be it.

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    To answer Ken's post, yes I do think people in Washington do want to take over GM. It helsp them politically with the UAW, who has backed Dem's forever. Perhaps the only other organization that's backed Dems more is ACORN.

    Like I said in an earlier post, there isn't really anything the government runs really well, because EVERYTHING is political to them!! Nothing is about the long term health of anything, or doing the right thing, it's all about the next election results.

    Really there doesn't seem to be much difference between the liars on the left and the liars on the right. They basically all suck and they should all be fired. That's where we come in. We the people have the power, we've just refused to really use it. I suggest that no matter where we as individuals are politically, left or right, we can come to terms. We do it all day long in our lives. At work and play, or even in conversation with family and friends. It seems to the Democrats in government that nothing the Republicans say or do is ever correct, right or good enough. And the Republicans are just as bad. As a result, the ONLY time things get done is if there's a clear majority in either party. What BS. Talk about loosing checks and balances!

    So, WE have to get and keep ourselves better informed, (ABC, NBC and CBS certainly isn't going to do it!!) and VOTE in every election. There are many seats coming up for re-election throughout the country before the presidential election and we should take advantage of it. I mean really, do we want John McCain, Orin Hatch, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and their kind running ANYTHING???

    Folks, perhaps the good news in all this is that we're talking about it. I've been a GM guy all my life. With only one exception (my wife's car) I've only owned GM cars. And I don't suspect I'll ever change that right or wrong. Even if and when it does become Government Motors (ouch that hurts to even say...)

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    If you think about it the right or left has nothing to gain by taking over any company. It is a loose loose situation. Obama, Biden McCain, ETC do not care about you or me as an individual. You tell me what decisions
    Obama has made to correct the GM problem. For that also tell me what washington has done to run GM, Ford, or Chrysler?
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    Well, the current administration basically demanded the GM CEO step down (should have been a board decision), and look at the so called deal for Chrysler....are you kidding?? The UAW gets controlling interest??? And this from a guy who never worked in the private sector EVER. I'm not suggesting the managment of these companies aren't without blame, for instance, why the heck has it taken so long to get the Camero to market? Who negotiated the UAW contracts in the first place? Who's been avoiding bankrupcy that could have forced restructuring that's been much needed anyway...managment.

    Then, cap it off with the regulatory requirements US manufacturers have to abide by, MPG and so forth (remember those wonderful safety bumpers in the late 70's??) that the imports don't have to and I think it becomes clear the impact DC has had on them. By the way, when you think imports, go beyond Toyota, Honda and the like. Don't forget Mercedes (and others), who pays fines rather than comply with some of the MPG requirements because it's more cost effective than alterning the brand and they still sell a boat load of cars.

    Anyway, this stuff give me a headache, I'm going to go put Hushmat in my 81!!

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    :G Boys & Girls GM is going to make it; a national tune up has been needed for years!

    Don't forget or even under estimate the unions and who really runs them either; enough said

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    Quote Originally Posted by damoroso View Post
    Well, the current administration basically demanded the GM CEO step down (should have been a board decision), and look at the so called deal for Chrysler....are you kidding?? The UAW gets controlling interest??? And this from a guy who never worked in the private sector EVER. I'm not suggesting the managment of these companies aren't without blame, for instance, why the heck has it taken so long to get the Camero to market? Who negotiated the UAW contracts in the first place? Who's been avoiding bankrupcy that could have forced restructuring that's been much needed anyway...managment.

    Then, cap it off with the regulatory requirements US manufacturers have to abide by, MPG and so forth (remember those wonderful safety bumpers in the late 70's??) that the imports don't have to and I think it becomes clear the impact DC has had on them. By the way, when you think imports, go beyond Toyota, Honda and the like. Don't forget Mercedes (and others), who pays fines rather than comply with some of the MPG requirements because it's more cost effective than alterning the brand and they still sell a boat load of cars.

    Anyway, this stuff give me a headache, I'm going to go put Hushmat in my 81!!


    Safety and emission regulations apply to all car makers that sell cars in the US, domestic OR import and always have. Since you mentioned M-B, don't you remember those horrible chrome and rubber bumpers on the SL's of the late 1970's/early 1980's? The only execption I can think of is Ferrari getting an exemption on the passenger airbag on the F430. As far as gas guzzler taxes, that's up to the maker if they want to avoid them or not ( the CTS-V and ZR1 both have gas guzzler taxes on them).

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    Obama has made to correct the GM problem. For that also tell me what washington has done to run GM, Ford, or Chrysler?

    Ford did not take any bail out money

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    Remember most of the Obama crowd drive imports.

    If the GTO and Camaro are GM's idea of retro, not sure I even want to see what the Nomad might look like.

    And last, does anyone want to drive a car built by a company run by the gov't that runs the Post Office, Amtrak, and Social Security? And yes, Obama does want to run the car companies, banks, health care, and every other aspect of your life.

    Atlas Shrugged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 73shark View Post
    Remember most of the Obama crowd drive imports.
    Not that I really care one way or the other, but it surprises me that anyone would make such a blatant blanket statement with (likely) no concrete studies done to support that assertion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evolution1980 View Post
    Not that I really care one way or the other, but it surprises me that anyone would make such a blatant blanket statement with (likely) no concrete studies done to support that assertion.
    Ahem. CLICK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick View Post
    Ahem. CLICK.
    If "the Obama crowd" referenced by 73shark is only a reference to the people in the inner-circle of the administration, then OK . But I believe it's a relatively weak sampling and not very scientific in it's planning & execution. Not that it claimed to be anything else, but it certainly wouldn't meet my qualifications as a concrete or comprehensive study.

    I took 73Shark's comment to be indirectly(?) pointing a finger at "democrats" as being "unamerican". Delving any further into discussion of such a study or what is "american" or what is an "american car" would only serve to hijack this thread. And as I stated, I don't really care one way or the other.

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