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    Quote Originally Posted by vett boy View Post
    Junkies homemade jet fuel .Gives ya that warm feelin' and leaves ya fuzzy .If your not lucky to have some try a good Kentucky Bourbon.

    The point is that premature oil changes and specialty synthetic oils probably won't do much of anything for the average owner except waste a little money .But it makes the owner feel good and I like to feel good.
    The extra money wasted also means 'perfectly good' oil going into a recycling program or a land fill for toxic waste. I'm not into wasting the extra money when my own experience has shown that to be true and I'd rather have the recyclers and toxic waste handlers wait a while longer before they get my used oil.

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    I go about 40 miles to a really good Chevy dealership, and they have a expert GM master tech who works on my Corvette. I asked him about additives to the motor oil, and he said I could set my money on fire as that's what your doing by putting anything other than oil in the engine. I asked about using 10w/30 Mobil 1. He told me that here in Pennslyvania, with the temps down around 10 degrees often through the winter, that using a heavier oil other than 5w/30 is really not good for the engine. And that the engine needs that 5w during the first 45 to 120 seconds of idling, after that time, it's protected by the 10w oil and on up the viscosity table as the engine heats up.

    He said the engine as it warms up is not affected by being a 5w over a 10w as the engine is idling around two or three minutes it is warm enough to be protected by a 5w/30 and in the summer, when the temps are over a 100 degrees, that the 30 weight is excellant protection for the engine, anything heavier is just sludge rolling around it the oil pan. This technician works on corvettes at the dealership and only Corvettes. Great guy who will tell you the truth even if it's not making money for the company.

    I asked about changing the transmission oil, but he said the way I drive and the little use I put on the car, that changing the trans oil was a waste. but he also said that way too many people will drive the car to 80.000 miles and never change the coolant, which he said was the single most important thing you can do to a car, changing the 'Dexcool' every two years at a minimum. and at the same time changing the clutch fluid as it does break down very quickly over the course of a few years.

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    I use Amsoil 0W30 oil. expensive but worth it. the first number (0) is the weight when the oil is cold. the (30) is the viscosity when the oil get hot. 30 weight is the protection that gm recommends. the newer engines have higher tolerances which is why gm does not recommend thicker oils. Also, 0W30 oil allows rotating parts to operate much smoother resulting in more power. I have seen gains from 8-12 horsepower just by changing oils. I have noticed a better idle and quicker response from my car. it is not a daily driver just a weekend car. it runs much smoother and revs up much faster. fyi. Amsoil is one of the finest oils money can buy. not easy to find but worth the money. edram454.

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    i have herd great things about amsoil. how much is it costing ya

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    bout 10 to 11 bucks a quart. since I dont change the oil but once a year it's not too bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hib Halverson View Post
    Lucas oil stabilizer is pure "snake oil". It's nothing more than a way to get you to give money to Lucas Oil for a worthless product.

    Ok....it's "worthless" as long as you use a good engine oil.

    Don't listen to "quick lube" franchises either. Most of them know how to sell oil and service but don't actually know much about oil and service.

    As for the question that led this thread...



    The "best" oil to use in a C5 engine regardless of price is Red Line 10W30.

    The best to use if price is an important limitation is Mobil 1 10W30

    Both of these are great engine oil products. There is absolutely no need to use any additive, Lucas or otherwise, with them.
    Most of the time I agree with you, but this time I dont. Be as it may.... Lucas is not something I would add to a C-5, but you cant call it snake oil. It is the best thing for a Big diesel with mega miles. I use it in my pete and get 10 pounds more oil pressure at an idol . I just rebuilt my motor 30,000 miles ago, it had 1.6 million miles on it and my mechanic told me that it didnt even need it.
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    is the amsoil synthetic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zagger View Post
    Mobil 1 works for me


    How the heck can you change the filter without drooping oil ?
    You put a small drain pan (I use an old pie plate) under the filter. You unscrew and remove the old filter. You prefill the new filter and install it in the old filter's place. Start and run the engine for a minute of so then shut it off. Wait 30 min and check the oil. Add any additional oil that is necessary.

    I "droop" very little oil.

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    I spend a lot of time working with an researching Class 8 trucks and truck engines working for Randall-Reilly Publishing.

    What's true of light vehicle engine oils, is true of the engines in Class 8s. If you are using the correct engine oil, you don't need an additive, Lucas or otherwise. If you're using the right oil, maintaining the engine properly and driving it right, it wouldn't surprise me to see 1,600,000 between overhauls.

    10 pounds more pressure at "idol" (is that "Billy Idol" or "American Idol"--sorry, couldn't resist) is irrlevent. What's important is whether or not the volume of oil flowing through the engine is enough for properly lubrication.

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    Sorry Hib, "idle" lol..... I do watch American Idol. Thank you for your input & knowledge
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    yes, a full synthetic. go to there website and you will see the battery of test and oil comparisons Amsoil provides. When I had my 1200hp Mustang my engine builder only used Amsoil in his very expensive custom engines. He builds 6 second 2000+ hp engines....all with Amsoil. Amsoil has saved many an engine from further damage so he swears by it. So do I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edram454 View Post
    I use Amsoil 0W30 oil. expensive but worth it. the first number (0) is the weight when the oil is cold. the (30) is the viscosity when the oil get hot. 30 weight is the protection that gm recommends. the newer engines have higher tolerances which is why gm does not recommend thicker oils. Also, 0W30 oil allows rotating parts to operate much smoother resulting in more power. I have seen gains from 8-12 horsepower just by changing oils. I have noticed a better idle and quicker response from my car. it is not a daily driver just a weekend car. it runs much smoother and revs up much faster. fyi. Amsoil is one of the finest oils money can buy. not easy to find but worth the money. edram454.
    For a car in Florida can tell us why you need a 0W30 oil?

    Also, the 8-12hp gain. Can you, please, post some chassis dynomometer data that supports that claim? Additionally, any test data you can supply supporting your claim of improved idle stability as a result of using Amsoil would be welcome.

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    Hello Hib,
    I truly enjoy your write-ups and respect your knowledge in the Corvette technical arena. The (0) tells your cold viscosity and the (30) the the viscosity at "temp". Generally a thinner oil will net better gas mileage since it takes less effort for the engine to rotate it's mass. Amsoil consistently has done the best in the ball bearing scar wear test against virtually all other brands..(see website). One of the dyno tests that I saw a zero weight oil up against a 5w20 weight was with a 2003 LS1 C5 corvette on LSXTV. In this case they used a japanese brand called Eneos 0w50. They ran two dyno test with the car hving 5w20 mobil 1...drained it and poured in the Eneos ow50.. ran two dynos with cooling between runs and gained 8 hp with 3 ft-lbs of torque on the change. dyno sheet at LSXTV just google Eneos dyno... This test was not with Amsoil but it shows how a thinner oil will produce more power. Of course the trick is to keep you car cool between runs to take advantage of the zero weight. I have felt my car run smoother and labor a tiny bit less with Amsoil zero weight oil. The oil I changed out was the Amsoil racing 15w50 oil I had bought when I was buying a ZR1 corvette a couple of years back. The deal fell through so I kept this racing oil on my shelf and put it in my car 5 months ago. When I read the article on zero weight oils and saw that gm recommends 5w30 weight because of tigher tolerances,, i changed out the oil immediately and went with 0w30 amsoil. Hope that at least answers some questions. I have not run a dyno with my 0w30 amsoil yet but plan too. edram454

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    Quote Originally Posted by gofastlarry View Post
    what is the best engine oil to use? ive always used whats whats recomended in the owners manual. i hear lucas oil stabalizer is good to use with your oil. just wondering.
    About two months ago I was in Wallmart to buy oil and noticed their "Super Tech" brand of full synthetic oil, 5W-30. I read the label for the API service which was SM/CF, SL, SJ, SH and ILSAC GF-4,GF-3.

    Also, on the label was "GM 4718 Crovette Spec". Now the good part the 5 quart container was only $17 so I loaded up ------ no, not for my Corvette but for all my other machines, lawn mowers, Honda four wheeler, DR brush cutter, and anything else here with a gas engine.

    When I was in Wally World the other day I noticed the same oil but no "Corvette Spec" on the label.

    What do you think, did Mobil 1 or the Corvette people get to Super Tech and put the squeeze on them because it's sold too cheaply or am I just getting more suspicious of the world?

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