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    You can also do as I did. Go to the first thread on this blog and click on the URL for recalls. After you inpu your request, download ana print the pages, take them to your dealer. He can then varify your qualifacation and check Chevrolet parts inventory for the U.S., order your belts, and hopefully(not likely)they can locate the color you need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LORR1943 View Post
    It's the VIN. All finish process vettes assembled at Bowling Green Assembly have complete doccumentation of the build process with the date,time,standard and optional equiptment,dealer destination,all the department inspectors buy-offs(body shop,paint, trim,chassis and final process)on hard copy and electronic files, so that if there is ever any need for referrence to a particular vehicle, the full info is available. If you ever want it, you can order a copy of the build sheet or a duplicate of the window sticker for your c4,5,6, and all future models. Just log on to the web site for the National Corvette Museum and you can see what all is available.
    Nah, what I'm saying is I don't see how GM knows which VIN's got the bad parts and which VIN's got the good parts. If you've got a box full of seat belts a worker is grabbing and throwing on cars. But I say one could know the cut off point if GM grabbed all the belts off the line. And put new defect free belts for the workers to start putting on. But I say it would be hard to know which VIN the first bad belt got put on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roger longman View Post
    OK. Vettes affected are 1988 vin from J5100001 through J5122789.....1989 from............ K5126328 through K5126328. I make that 22789 and 26328 vehicles respectively. Phone Chevrolet, give them your VIN and the name of your dealer you wish them to contact and sit back. Roger.
    I wonder what would happen if the recall new belts you got started locking up? I've got new belts and haven't really had a problem. But a couple of times they locked when I tried to pull the belt out.

    I'm guessing the problem with the affect belts is a screw up by the maker? Then they corrected the problem for the remainder of the run?

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    When a problem is identified by GM the batch from the manufacturer containing the fault is ordered recalled. My VIN. J5102890 fell neatly 2890 into that. The first dealer I went to wanted to check the belts before ordering replacements, that was not acceptable as the fault was intermittent but worsening. The second dealer had no problem in just ordering after speaking with GM. More worrying was the other recall concerning the "FATIGUE FRACTURE OF INBOARD JOINT THREADED PORTION OF STUD" on the rear tie bar. GM were unable to determine Whether or not my car had been put right. The mechanic knew of the problem and confirmed mine had been replaced. Roger.

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    I saw some NOS seatbelt assemblies on Ebay recently! Colors did vary so good luck! BTW, I'm not selling them

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    Why would you buy them when they are on recall ? Incidently GM didn't blame the floor mat for the problem ! Roger.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by roger longman View Post
    Why would tou buy them when thet are on recall ? Incidently GM didn't blame the floor mat for the problem. Roger.
    When they have a lifetime recall on something like this. Isn't the company supposed to set aside X amount of replacement parts to be able to cover all affected vehicles? I just don't see how GM could let the belts run out when they are on recall.

    But I'm sure if they did run out of belts, and someone kept pushing it to get their belts replaced via the government. Then they'd have to get another run of belts made.

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    There was NO problem getting the belts from GM. It's just that you cannot specify a colour. I think GM are to be applauded in this instance. Roger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roger longman View Post
    Why would tou buy them when thet are on recall ? Incidently GM didn't blame the floor mat for the problem ! Roger.
    I would buy them because I can't get any free ones, and I kind of need them. Every dealer I have been to tells me the same thing, "These parts are discontinued and our computers say that there are no other dealers with seatbelts for your car."

    I am thinking of buying replacements from a 3rd party online. I am also just considering upgrading to racing seatbelts, but I am not sure I want to change out the seat.

    If I buy third part belts, then I get to keep my old ones. Then I can try and figure out what is wrong with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roger longman View Post
    There was NO problem getting the belts from GM. It's just that you cannot specify a colour. I think GM are to be applauded in this instance. Roger.

    I think your color match is good too....and I'm sure anyone CAN get them FREE from GM by talking to the right people...like you did!
    Some might be picky on the exact color or if the word "cinch" is white or orange (I'd change that color easily myself too...some wont oddly enough as simple as that is!).

    As for GM putting parts aside....they certainly did for a period of time...but think about the logistics and expense involved. They made X number of belts and after 20+ years people still hadnt used them with the recall. Odds are most of those cars under recall were junked or the belts worked OK. The parts are sitting somewhere and a paying customer wants a new set...I'd sell 'em too!

    Now 25 years later people whose belts did work OK for years want new ones because theirs are dirty and dingy?

    The aftermarket will make them eventually anyway. GM can get them from there eventually if need be....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CorvetteArchives View Post
    I think your color match is good too....and I'm sure anyone CAN get them FREE from GM by talking to the right people...like you did!
    Some might be picky on the exact color or if the word "cinch" is white or orange (I'd change that color easily myself too...some wont oddly enough as simple as that is!).

    As for GM putting parts aside....they certainly did for a period of time...but think about the logistics and expense involved. They made X number of belts and after 20+ years people still hadnt used them with the recall. Odds are most of those cars under recall were junked or the belts worked OK. The parts are sitting somewhere and a paying customer wants a new set...I'd sell 'em too!

    Now 25 years later people whose belts did work OK for years want new ones because theirs are dirty and dingy?

    The aftermarket will make them eventually anyway. GM can get them from there eventually if need be....
    No, the reason people want new belts is because the belts have a defect to where you can't use them. Not cause they are dirty, but because there is a design flaw to where they hardly work anymore. I'd much rather the factory belts worked fine without having the need to get new ones put on.

    I got my belts replaced for free a few years ago under the recall, I got black belts which is what is on the car. But a few times the new belts have hung trying to get them out. But it is no where near what it was as then it was almost every time. The old belts would also cinch up on me as I drove, very annoying.

    What other vehicle has had a problem to where you can't even use your seat belts? I've never heard of it.

    And not anyone can get them for free. Only a few years are specified in the recall. So if you have say a 93, and your belts won't pull out cause they are hung up. You will have to replace them yourself.

    One thing you have to keep in mind is years ago, lots of people didn't wear their seat belts. So if the PO never wore the belts, then there would be no need for him to get new belts since they never use them.

    I doubt the aftermarket will be making C4 belts anytime soon. The last C4 rolled off the line in 96, and there has yet to be any aftermarket make seatbelts for the C4.

    I do think though GM doesn't have to match color. At least that is what I've always heard. Just as long as they replace the belts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roger longman View Post
    There was NO problem getting the belts from GM. It's just that you cannot specify a colour. I think GM are to be applauded in this instance. Roger.
    The only reason GM is doing it is because they are required to by law. I would be willing to bet if there was no law, GM would tell you to FO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshwilson3 View Post
    The only reason GM is doing it is because they are required to by law. I would be willing to bet if there was no law, GM would tell you to FO.
    I'm sure you're right and so would I after 22 years ! A certain Japanese company has been saying the same to millions of new car owners, or so I'm lead to believe. I only learned of this recall with the origination of this thread. My problem was that the belt remained slack, it seems others encountered different failures, how this could have slipped through in the first case baffles me. Roger......

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    Hi TedC I was wondering what was wrong with the seatbelts for them to be recalled,any more info on this would be great.have a good one Ted,cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roger longman View Post
    I'm sure you're right and so would I after 22 years ! A certain Japanese company has been saying the same to millions of new car owners, or so I'm lead to believe. I only learned of this recall with the origination of this thread. My problem was that the belt remained slack, it seems others encountered different failures, how this could have slipped through in the first case baffles me. Roger......
    I bought my '88 Vette here in the UK in 1999, and the driver's belt has always had the occasional 'going slack' (i.e. not retracting properly) tendency. I kept wanting to get a replacement, but it was never available in the right colour (Flame Red), until I got a 'new C4 products' e-mail from Eckler's this March which featured it. So, I ordered it and it arrived a week ago. And now I find out about the recall! I know my VIN is in the range, but I wonder if this fault is covered and if so will GM cover the cost. Did you find out any more? Richard

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