• Shell's New Nitrogen Enriched Gasolines?
  • Shell's New Nitrogen Enriched Gasolines?
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    The problem I have with the term nitrogen is there several forms
    of it. All forms Are Corrisive. Think about what happens to your fertilizer
    spreader if you don't clean it. It will eat up the metal.


    here is a link... Nitrogen

    I can see pro's and con's but I don't get how it will clean.

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    Default SHELL

    I burn through 3 tanks of fuel per week and allways use shell. I haven't noticed any change in performance or fuel mileage. Seems to wrok ok for me and the xtra gunk removal can't hurt.

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    Remember the air we (and your vette) breathes is already 80% Nitrogen.
    Nitrogen will not support combustion, only Oxygen will - by definition combining Oxygen with anything is "combustion" - produces more heat than it consumes aka Exothermic. Making Nitrogen into NO, NO2, NO4 does theoretically consume some heat. Adding N2 to fuel may Level out the combustion process and reduce knocking, allowing the use of lower Octane (don't go there) fuels than the pump states.

    My opinion - another way to crap up our fuels in the name of some environmental foolishness.

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    Not sure what it does or how it reacts, but just to dispel a few myths in the thread.....

    Nitrogen is an inert gas so it will not burn. It will bind with other atoms but its also not coresive on its own as N2. It is the most abundent gas in the air we breathe so I'm not sure how the little extra added to the gas makes a significant difference in the vast majority that gets sucked in through your intake anyway.
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    {{"The Nation that makes a great distinction between its scholars and its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools."
    ~ Thucydides}}

    I fear we've now reached that point. Everything is now politicized and restated to glorify Obama and the Dems

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bioscache2 View Post
    Not sure what it does or how it reacts, but just to dispel a few myths in the thread.....

    Nitrogen is an inert gas so it will not burn. It will bind with other atoms but its also not coresive on its own as N2. It is the most abundent gas in the air we breathe so I'm not sure how the little extra added to the gas makes a significant difference in the vast majority that gets sucked in through your intake anyway.


    Nitrogen as I said is in many forms... a inert gas and liquid or bonded with
    ammonium to for ammonium nitrate. Still nitrogen. Liquid nitrogen would have to stay chilled and the tanks on a car or at the gas station is not doing that. Inert gas form would not work either as it would dispel as soon as you pumped it in the tank. If it's bonded which can happen in several forms of bonding it comes from a compound state. It is corrosive in some forms. The problem is none of us know shells recipe for the fuel..

    Here is a list of forms of nitrogen. 4 of them are placard corrosive.

    Nitrogen
    Nitrogen (JP14/NF)
    Nitrogen (liquefied)
    Nitrogen (liquified)
    Nitrogen gas
    nitrogen molecule
    Nitrogen, compressed
    Nitrogen, compressed [UN1066] [Nonflammable gas]
    Nitrogen, refrigerated liquid
    Nitrogen, refrigerated liquid (cryogenic liquid) [UN1977] [Nonflammable gas]
    Nitrogen, refrigerated liquid cryogenic liquid
    Nitrogen-14
    NITROGEN-MOLECULE

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    OK one tank burned and re fuel I noticed no difference in mpg or performance at all. 20.5 mpg that tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doublefoxed View Post
    OK one tank burned and re fuel I noticed no difference in mpg or performance at all. 20.5 mpg that tank.
    Too bad you can't intentionally add some gunk to the engine and see if it cleans it .

    Just wondering did you notice if your Shell has increased in price. The one near me, that was usually one of the lowest is now 10 cents higher than the other stations I watch.

    I haven't been to Shell yet since they got their new gas, and was wondering if it is just all their gas (and all more expensive) or a special type they have at the pump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vdogamr View Post
    Too bad you can't intentionally add some gunk to the engine and see if it cleans it .

    Just wondering did you notice if your Shell has increased in price. The one near me, that was usually one of the lowest is now 10 cents higher than the other stations I watch.

    I haven't been to Shell yet since they got their new gas, and was wondering if it is just all their gas (and all more expensive) or a special type they have at the pump.

    LOL on some gunk.... not going to do that...
    As far as price goes it's no differnet than any of the others.

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    Hmmmm, I found the disclaimer at the end of the Shell article more eye opening than the article itself........

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    Anyone that is worried about nitrogen being corrosive should not be burning ethanol.
    If you read closely they stated that the nitrogen stabilizes the cleaner. I think it said that it makes the cleaners last longer in the engine.

    [ Nitrogen is a key element of the active cleaning molecule in the new fuel, making it significantly more stable at higher temperatures common in modern engines, such as direct fuel-injection gasoline engines. The increased stability ensures that the molecule can work under much tougher engine conditions by resisting thermal breakdown better than conventional cleaning additives. ]

    My wife has noticed an increase in gas mileage the last few fills. This might be due to the fact that formulation is changed in the fall for winter driving and again in the spring for summer driving. I have never noticed the change this early, usually well into April.
    We see one to two miles per gal diff. from winter to summer gas.

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    That would probably explain the recent hike of 10 cents per gallon at both Shell stations we frequent. Usually their prices vary and we choose one or the other depending on which way we go to Allentown. But now they are EXACTLY the same

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    Well after 3 tanks I notice nothing. No difference in performance or
    mpg. Now I am not going to tear it down to see if the absence of
    gunk is present or not, however during a pre-race show for Nascar
    today Jennie Zelasko (hottie) interviewed Kevin Harvick about a recent
    commercial that he shot about the nitrogen fuel and I thought it was
    funny he said it was for their new gimmick.... Gimmick.... lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doublefoxed View Post
    Well after 3 tanks I notice nothing. No difference in performance or
    mpg. Now I am not going to tear it down to see if the absence of
    gunk is present or not, however during a pre-race show for Nascar
    today Jennie Zelasko (hottie) interviewed Kevin Harvick about a recent
    commercial that he shot about the nitrogen fuel and I thought it was
    funny he said it was for their new gimmick.... Gimmick.... lol.
    Wow. Considering Shell is his main sponsor they must be real proud of him.

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