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    Quote Originally Posted by LLC5 View Post
    Why don't you just put your whole car in the freezer and see if it starts the next morning?
    Essentially, that's life up here in the winter. It's not unusual to see overnight temps of -30*C/22 below F or colder. Given a fresh battery we expect our cars to crank and fire up not much differently than if it was a hot day in summer.

    Our lost in the desert friend TBTR seems to be discovering things just now that the rest of the world has known for at least 40 years.

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    Default 120 Volt Block Heaters

    As the morning lows in my area often hit the teens during the winter I have considered installing a 120-volt block heater. But as I'm on generator power it would be difficult to use one because of how long ahead of time I would have to start my generator to get my engine warm enough for it's heater to work. And then there's the matter of dealing with the electrical connection to the block heater.

    I'm toying with the idea of switching to a 0W30 synthetic oil to further help the flow of ice cold oil. A lot of people are now using 0W40 synthetic oils because of their ability to flow under really cold conditions as well as protecting their engines under really hot conditions.

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    Here is a chart for the non-engineers


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    Quote Originally Posted by dougelam View Post
    Here is a chart for the non-engineers


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    This chat will probably just confuse TBTR since it's in *C.
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    Default Early Multi-Grade Oils

    I can remember a time in which the multi-grade oils had problems like absorbing water and returning to their base weight in a fairly short time. But that was in the early 70's and since then oils have improved a lot. I can foresee a day in which the conventional straight grade oils become obsolete as the multi-grade synthetics are so much better and getting cheaper with each passing year. I have noticed the 0W40 synthetics have become extremely popular as they flow so well in bitter cold weather and protect so well in brutally hot weather. I'm gong to buy a couple of cases the next time I buy oil and see how well it performs. But rather than 0W40 I'll try 0W30 because I feel a 40 weight oil is a bit too thick for the temperatures I drive in. The thicker an oil is the harder it is to scrape off the cylinder walls so oil can be TOO thick. If I lived in certain areas of California, Arizona, or Texas I would use the heavier 0W40.

    Did you know the NASCAR engines use 0W5 oils? Something I wasn't aware of until just recently when I read several technical articles on NASCAR engines. I suspect the reason is those engines never see low rpm lugging conditions but rather 8000+ rpm conditions in which thinner oil is needed to greatly reduce frictional drag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toobroketoretire View Post
    I have recently noticed the 0W40 synthetic oils are getting very popular for obvious reasons; having the ability to flow at low temperatures as well as providing added protection at operating temperatures. I may buy some the next time I stock up. I have been buying "Parts Master" 10W30 synthetic oil from my local parts store/machine shop for the last several years and so far have no complaints with it. It's made by Ashland just as Valvoline is so it might be the same oil but packaged under a different name.
    Hellyeah!
    I want some of that "Parts Master" oil they use over in Saudi! If it's good enough for TBTR, it's good enough for me.

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    Default German 6th Army

    In World War II the German 6th army got demolished largely because it didn't have "cold weather lubricants" like the Russians had. In the -50 degree F Russian winter the German lubricants were way too thick for their machinery to function so the Russian troops had a huge advantage over them. If the German army had our modern multi-viscosity synthetic oils the outcome might have been very different.

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    You do know that synthetic lubricants were first developed by the Germans several decades prior to WWII, don't you?

    No, I didn't think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hib Halverson View Post
    Hellyeah!
    I want some of that "Parts Master" oil they use over in Saudi! If it's good enough for TBTR, it's good enough for me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by toobroketoretire View Post
    In World War II the German 6th army got demolished largely because it didn't have "cold weather lubricants" like the Russians had. In the -50 degree F Russian winter the German lubricants were way too thick for their machinery to function so the Russian troops had a huge advantage over them. If the German army had our modern multi-viscosity synthetic oils the outcome might have been very different.
    If the pilgrims knew that boiling water made it potable the wouldn't have stopped at Plymouth Rock and we would still be wearing buffalo hide for clothing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antz81 View Post
    This chat will probably just confuse TBTR since it's in *C.

    What the heck is a "chat"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by toobroketoretire View Post
    What the heck is a "chat"?
    You claim to be the only intelligent person here. Why don't you tell me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antz81 View Post
    You claim to be the only intelligent person here. Why don't you tell me?

    I see you're off topic as always. How about contributing something to this thread that is about cold oil and it's effect on an engine?

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    Default Wait a minute -

    Where the hell is TBTR calling home - California or Saudi Arabia?

    Cuz when I was worked in the Kingdom back in '79-'80, non-nationals were not allowed to drive; you were assigned a car and driver. And if he's in the Kingdom, how is he mucking up things with his car. And I pretty sure the Kingdom doesn't allow non-nationals to import cars...

    OR

    Are we dealing with Prince Fuzziballs of the Kingdom of Saud ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SVO View Post
    Are we dealing with Prince Fuzziballs of the Kingdom of Saud ?
    Nah, everyone here knows what we are dealing with....
    Whoosh, and blur

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