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    All body coated with Epitech will need board filling before recoat and sand again prior to paint. Looking good tho and very happy with all gaps

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    Looks nice. I wish mine was that far along.

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    That looks awesome! Are you doing all the work yourself?

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    Looking real good. Nice fit on the hood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jose View Post
    All body coated with Epitech will need board filling before recoat and sand again prior to paint. Looking good tho and very happy with all gaps
    Does this primer require any special surface treatment when used on fiberglass?
    How smooth is the surface after the primer cures?
    Does it need a lot of sanding?
    Do you paint directly on top of this primer?
    What type of paint will you be using (base clear, enamel, single stage urethane)?

    I have been trying to find a product that is equivalent to your Epitech (Epotec) here in the US, but it is difficult to compare the specifications. Do you know the name of the manufacturer?

    Thanks,
    Charles

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    Primer is sprayed directly on the glass no solvents are to be used to clean the surface in fear that they are absorbed by loose glass fibers only wipe dust and if really needed soapy water.
    It finishes like an egg shell
    It is dry sanded to remove any highs.
    a second coat is then put on and board sanded again
    You can paint straight on it but the appropriate undercoat prior to top coat would be a good idea.
    This car has been coated once after all repairs then board sanded dry and recoated .We then sand again this product apply an undercoat with a guide coat sand again to pick any highs and lows before a wet on wet coat is applied in two pack crown saphire.

    The hot roders here have used it for years on new glass buckets without top coating it at all, it is used mostly in linning swimming pools to seal the glass from water. great stuff leaves gell coats for dead

    here is the safety data sheet for it
    TECHNICAL DATA SHEET
    This information is furnished without warranty, representation, inducement or licence of any kind except that it is accurate to the best of Protec Pty Ltd's
    knowledge or obtained by Protec Pty Ltd from sources believed by it to be accurate and Protec Pty Ltd does not assume any legal responsibility for use or
    reliance upon the same. Customers are encouraged to conduct their own tests.
    408 EPOTEC PRIMER SURFACER
    Page 1/3
    Revised: Apr 2008

    DESCRIPTION
    A polyamide cured epoxy primer surfacer, for use on metal, wood, masonry and
    fibreglass as the base coat for 370 EPOTEC TWO PACK EPOXY ENAMEL and
    600 DURATEC POLYURETHANE ENAMEL topcoats.
    PRODUCT No
    • 408 - 1011 Grey-Green

    •
    408 - 5169 Ceramic Beige

    •
    408 - 6063 Grey

    •
    408 - 7218 Black

    GLOSS
    • Matt

    APPLICATION
    • Mix 4 parts by volume 408 EPOTEC PRIMER SURFACER PACK A with 1
    part by volume 414 EPOTEC PRIMER HARDENER PACK B. Mix well and
    stand for 10 minutes before use.

    •
    Brush & Roller: Mixed material is ready for use for brush application. Apply
    full even coats. When applying over a porous surface, thin the first coat 15%
    with R202 EPOTEC THINNER.

    •
    Spray Application: May be applied by conventional or airless spray. Thin
    mixed material 20% with R202 EPOTEC THINNER. Apply as two wet-on-wet
    medium coats, allowing 10 minutes flash-off between coats.

    THINNING
    • No thinning is required for brush application, but use R202 EPOTEC
    THINNER for spray application.

    CLEAN UP
    • Clean equipment with R202 EPOTEC THINNER

    RECOAT
    • After overnight drying under normal conditions.

    •
    Sand surface well with 320/360 grit paper.

    •
    Approximate re-coat times:

    ��
    At 30°C minimum 10 hrs – maximum 24 hrs

    ��
    At 20°C minimum 20 hrs – maximum 48 hrs

    ��
    At 10°C minimum 30 hrs – maximum 60 hrs

    COVERAGE
    • 11 square metres per litre at 40 microns dry film thickness, assuming no
    losses, but actual spreading rates will be less, depending on such factors as
    surface profile, application method and conditions.

    POT LIFE
    • Mixed material is 10 hours under normal conditions. Do NOT return unused
    mixed material to the can.

    MIXING RATIO
    • 4 parts 408 EPOTEC PRIMER SURFACER - PACK A

    •
    1 part 414 EPOTEC HARDENER - PACK B by volume

    TECHNICAL DATA SHEET
    This information is furnished without warranty, representation, inducement or licence of any kind except that it is accurate to the best of Protec Pty Ltd's
    knowledge or obtained by Protec Pty Ltd from sources believed by it to be accurate and Protec Pty Ltd does not assume any legal responsibility for use or
    reliance upon the same. Customers are encouraged to conduct their own tests.
    408 EPOTEC PRIMER SURFACER
    Page 2/3
    Revised: Apr 2008

    DRYING TIME
    Drying of Epotec Primer Surfacer is very dependent on temperature and it will
    not cure at temperatures below 5
    °C.

    ��
    Touch Dry 1-2 hours

    ��
    Hard Dry overnight under normal conditions

    SURFACE
    PREPARATION
    •
    Wash all surfaces to be painted with R123 HD WAX & GREASE
    REMOVER, using frequent changes of clean cloths.

    •
    Work in small areas and dry off thoroughly with clean rags, starting on top
    panels and working down.

    •
    Ensure that all oil and grease deposits are removed.

    •
    Acid and alkali contamination should be removed by thoroughly rinsing with
    clean water.

    •
    Rust, mill scale, oxide deposits, loose flaking paint and other foreign matter
    should be removed.

    •
    STEEL: (a) Structural Steel - Abrasive blast clean to AS1627.4 Class 2.5
    Apply primer within
    �� hour of blasting.
    (b)
    New Steel Sheet - Treat new steel sheet with 971 METAL
    CONDITIONER.

    ��
    Do not allow the solution to dry, but wipe off with clean cloths.

    ��
    Rinse well with water to remove excess acid then wipe dry
    with clean cloths. Apply primer immediately after preparation
    of a clean surface.

    •
    ALUMINIUM: Degrease with R123 HD WAX & GREASE REMOVER and
    wipe dry with clean cloths before dry.

    ��
    Scuff surface with a nylon abrasive pad.

    •
    MASONRY, BRICK & CONCRETE: Brush down to remove all dust and
    powdered material by wire or power brush.

    ��
    Chemically neutralise the surface if efflorescence is present.

    •
    TIMBER: Ensure surface is clean and dry and sanded to a smooth finish.

    •
    FIBREGLASS, (GRP): Wash surface thoroughly using a mixture of warm
    water and detergent to remove waterborne release agents.

    ��
    Rinse with clean water and wipe dry.

    ��
    Lightly dry sand entire surface with 320 grit paper.

    ��
    Clean up with R123 HD WAX & GREASE REMOVER, working
    in small areas and wipe dry with a clean cloth.

    •
    PREVIOUSLY PAINTED SURFACES: Remove all loose and flaking paint,
    rust etc. with power/hand tool combination.

    ��
    Spot prime all bare steel areas.

    ��
    Before proceeding with the coating of any previously painted
    surface, a test patch should be done. Providing there has
    been no “frying” or other film defect, proceed as above.

    ��
    If any “lifting” or frying is evident, strip back to bare metal with
    186 SUPERSTRIP PAINT REMOVER.

    TECHNICAL DATA SHEET
    This information is furnished without warranty, representation, inducement or licence of any kind except that it is accurate to the best of Protec Pty Ltd's
    knowledge or obtained by Protec Pty Ltd from sources believed by it to be accurate and Protec Pty Ltd does not assume any legal responsibility for use or
    reliance upon the same. Customers are encouraged to conduct their own tests.
    408 EPOTEC PRIMER SURFACER
    Page 3/3
    Revised: Apr 2008

    RESISTANT
    PROPERTIES
    •
    Abrasion: Excellent

    •
    Chemical: Excellent

    •
    Solvent: Excellent

    •
    Durability: Excellent When Top Coated

    •
    Heat Resistance: Satisfactory Up To 150°C

    PACK SIZES
    •
    PACK A: 1 Litre, 4 Litres

    •
    PACK B: 250mL, 1 Litre

    PRECAUTIONS
    408 EPOTEC PRIMER contains highly flammable solvents. Keep away from all sources of heat and
    naked flames. Keep containers closed at all times. Do not smoke whilst using this product. Use in a well
    ventilated area and avoid inhalation of vapour or spray mist. Where risk of inhalation exists, use combined
    organic vapour/particulate respirator. When spray painting, comply with the provisions of the respective
    State Spray Painting Regulations. Avoid prolonged or repeated skin contact and observe all normal
    hygiene standards.
    HEATH AND SAFETY
    Contains highly flammable volatile solvents. Keep away from all sources of heat and open flames. Do not
    smoke whilst handling. Wear suitable protective clothing to avoid contact with skin and eyes and avoid
    breathing vapour. Do not spray in confined or poorly ventilated areas without the use of approved air
    supplied breathing apparatus.
    FIRST AID
    Eyes
    If splashed in eyes, irrigate with copious amounts of clean water for 15 minutes.
    Seek medical aid if irritation persists.

    Skin
    If splashed on skin, wash affected area thoroughly with soap and water. If irritation
    persists seek medical aid. Remove all contaminated clothing and launder before reuse.

    Inhalation
    If affected by exposure to vapours, remove from area, keep at rest and seek
    medical aid if symptoms persist.

    Ingestion
    If swallowed, give glass of water to drink and seek medical assistance. DO NOT

    induce vomiting.
    Consult separate Material Safety Data Sheet for more detailed Health and Safety information.




    Quote Originally Posted by cbernhardt View Post
    Does this primer require any special surface treatment when used on fiberglass?
    How smooth is the surface after the primer cures?
    Does it need a lot of sanding?
    Do you paint directly on top of this primer?
    What type of paint will you be using (base cler, enamel, single stage urethane)?

    I have been trying to find a product that is equivalent to your Epitech (Epotec) here in the US, but it is difficult to compare the specifications. Do you know the name of the manufacturer?

    Thanks,
    Charles

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