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Rob
03-10-02, 10:29 PM
<h3 align="center">Grinding the Corvette Axe</h3>
<img src="/images/columns/wheelspin/wheelspin2.gif" width="140" height="79" border="0" alt="wheelspin column" align="left" /><font size="+3"><b>W</b></font>elcome to the new "Wheelspin" column which is the first installment of a series of monthly columns we'll be rolling out over the next month.

The purpose of the "Wheelspin" column is to take a look at various aspects of the Corvette marque and examine related topics and how they relate to the owner and enthusiast. In essence, it's an editorial column which I hope will be informational as well as stimulating to the reader.

One of the projects I've been working on is compiling the survey data from the online C5 owners' survey that we had up on the site for several months. My initial intention was to use the article which looks at the results of the survey and discusses the concepts of Corvette ownership as the debut for this column, however I'm still in the process of putting the article together and after my experience today, it occurred to me that there is probably a more important issue to discuss and one which we all should take a particular interest in. I call it, "grinding the Corvette Axe".

There seems to be this sect....a growing faction of Corvette owner that drives around with a Corvette axe to grind. It's the owner who....doesn't wave when they pass another Corvette owner. It's the owner who looks down upon (and that's if they look at you at all) owners of Corvettes that have less performance, or cost less to buy or don't have the same aftermaket performance modifications. If they are willing to give you the time of day, they either usurp every opportunity to "mention in passing" how much the multitude of aftermarket performance upgrades cost them, or they'll just pay little if any attention to you when you're proudly telling them about how you acquired your prized Corvette from the original owner. They will look at anything and anywhere but won't look you in the eyes when you're talking to them.

At first, I thought this only existed at Corvette shows, but in the last few weeks, it's been brought to my attention that it exists online within forums and chat communities. More recently, I discovered it even exists on the road as I witnessed this afternoon while driving my own Corvette.

Coming home from the gym, I decided to take the long way home. Not a cloud in the sky, around 50 degrees with a slight breeze. Perfect driving weather. As I crossed an intersection, I noticed a 1993-1996 LT1 convertible dressed in Polo Green paint with a tan top getting ready to pull out. As I passed, I waved, but didn't take my eyes off the road in front of me to see if the owner waved back. Eventually, I came to a stop light and the Polo Green LT1 pulled behind a car that was next to me in the left hand lane. Nothing unusual. The light turned green and I took off like I normally do and settled down into a comfortable cruise. The LT1 pulled up behind me and matched my speed. I continued along my way until I came to another stop light. The LT1 suddenly pulled out from behind and stopped along side of me. As I looked over, the owner just looked straight ahead....gold bracelet dangling as his limp wrist hung over the top of the steering wheel. He obviously had a 6-speed as I could hear him incessantly switching in and out of gears. I couldn't figure out what the hell he was doing but I figured....whatever. The light turned green and he floored it leaving me in a cloud of dust. I eventually caught up to him and passed him. At the next stoplight he pulled up along my left side again, limp wrist hanging over the steering wheel...playing with his stick shift. The light turned green, and he punched it again. This happened one other time before he ended up turning off the road as I proceeded on. Each time, he refused to look at me which was probably a good thing because his eyes would have blistered if he read the language coming from my lips.

This isn't the first time I've seen this type of Corvette owner before. I simply can't understand where the attitude comes from and for what reason. Friendly competition is one thing, blatant ignorance and a pompous attitude is another. Unfortunately, it is this type of owner that ends up tarnishing the Corvette marque. It's this type of Corvette owner that everyone else remembers. The attitude is what sticks in everyone's mind. We've all heard the jokes that float around about how Corvette owners are nothing but gold chaing wearing, snotty jerks who use their Corvettes as an extension of there....well....nevermind. You get the picture.

I'm also willing to bet that he didn't even bother to return the wave when I initially passed by him. What's interesting is, I passed a beautiful 2001-2002 Torch Red Z06 shortly after meeting up with "Mister Bracelet". We were close enough that we looked right at one another. I waved. There was no wave back.

On the other hand, I had a small run-in with a brand new Ferrari 360 Modena convertible last summer. I happened to catch the evil front end smile approaching quickly in my rear view mirror. The owner was a grey-haired gentleman wearing a baseball cap. We were on a local highway and as the traffic cleared, I picked up the pace. No matter what speed I drove, he matched me effortlessly. He never tail gated, and never pulled outlandish maneuvers in an attempt to pass me. Eventually, my exit came up and as I was getting off the highway, I looked over at him as he looked at me. I threw him a thumbs up, he threw one back and took off his baseball cap and waved as he drove on. That to me, was a gesture of acknowledgement that I will never forget. To me, it was a mutual understanding that we both own and appreciate a specific type of automobile that is engineered and built to excite the driver and entice the senses. All that coming from someone who can obviously afford a stable full of Corvettes.

<img src="http://corvetteactioncenter.com/images/wave.jpg" align="right" width="160" height="130" />So you may ask what exactly is this...."wave" that I'm talking about? Shortly after the 1953 Corvette went into production, Corvette owners began waving to one another. Although I won't go into great detail about what "The Wave" is and what "Save the Wave" means since you can read a separate article about it in our <a href="http://corvetteactioncenter.com/history/index.html">History Section</a>, in a nutshell, it's nothing more than a quick hand-wave greeting between owners signifying they recognize each other as an owner of one of the most important American cultural icons on the road to date. Basically, your saying "hi, nice Vette" by waving to another Corvette owner. Plain and simple. Jaguar XKE owners wave to one another and will sometimes flash their lights. Dodge Viper owners wave to one another as do Ferrari owners. I'm sure owners of other special marques all do the same.

So why does it seem as though there is a growing population of Corvette owners that have an axe to grind and don't bother waving to another Corvette owner on the road?

It quite possibly could be due to the fact that each year of C5 production, the number of C5 sales increases. The C5 has enjoyed a multitude of praise and gratitude from automotive journalists. It's been well received by the public. And I'm willing to bet that a fair percentage of new Corvette owners are also new to the marque and what it means to be a Corvette owner. For those that can't afford a new C5 Corvette, previous generations are being purchased by first time Corvette owners. In essence, there is an influx of owners that are entirely new to the Corvette experience.

That's why it's up to you and up to me to help educate these owners. As owners and enthusiasts ourselves, we need to show those who are new to Corvette that the importance behind what they drive goes well beyond the sticker price they paid. On the rear bumper of every Corvette are the letters C-O-R-V-E-T-T-E and that is all that matters.

Each time you get behind the wheel of your Corvette you are essentially representing the mainstream owner of the marque. If you carry your attitude around like a chip on your shoulder and treat every stop light and intersection as a means of expressing your Corvette's performance potential, you will do nothing more than strengthen the already tarnished reputation that Corvette owners carry in the eyes of the public.

<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="150" align="right"><tr><td bgcolor="#000000"width="150"><table width="150" border="0" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3"><tr><td valign="top" bgcolor="#3C66A0">&nbsp;<font face="arial,verdana,helvetica" color="#FFFFFF" size="2"><b>Related Links</b></font> </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><font class="sf"><b><big>∑</big></b> <a href="/history/index.html">History Section</a><br /><b><big>∑</big></b> <a href="/history/wave.html">The Wave</a></td></tr></table></td></tr></table>When you see another Corvette....WAVE. If you're a member of a local Corvette club, have the editor of your club's newsletter put a little blurb in stating "Help Save the Wave - Wave when you pass another Corvette". In short, help someone new to the Corvette marque learn what it means to own and drive the one and only "Heartbeat of America" and help dull that axe they may have to grind. "Save the Wave"! - <i>Rob</i>

Next Month: C5 Owners Speak Out

Ken
03-10-02, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by Rob
That's why it's up to you and up to me to help educate these owners. As owners and enthusiasts ourselves, we need to show those who are new to Corvette that the importance behind what they drive goes well beyond the sticker price they paid.

Well spoken Rob. :upthumbs

DkBG
03-10-02, 11:30 PM
Ya know Rob , I checked out another Vette Forum last week and what I found there was a bunch of rude arrogant people that acted , on line the way you just described . Rather than helpful replies , it was more like , Hey you're dumber than hell ; I know way more than you ! . Rather than goodhearted digs it was meanspirited insults . So , yes , they are out there . I just hope they don't find they're way to your (our ?) group !

CH CHang
03-11-02, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by Rob
There seems to be this sect....a growing faction of Corvette owner that drives around with a Corvette axe to grind. It's the owner
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I hear you and I agree...

I figure that some of these "Axe Grinders" are people who don't really love, or even like, cars. They probably enjoy very little about their cars other than going fast. They are people to which a car is nothing more than a status symbol. Their car (no matter what make/model) is to say "I have X car, it cost Y dollars on it, and I put Z dollars in aftermarket mods. Aren't I cool?"

These aren't people who are passionate about Corvettes, or cars in general. They have/will never- 1) take the long way home 2) take a "Sunday Drive"...

I'm not a current Corvette owner, I'm waffling on whether I should buy one sooner or later. I maybe able to afford to buy one this year or next. But, I may pay off my current car and wait for the C6's.

Either way, rest assured, when I do have a Corvette, if I ever see you on the road, I'll wave.

Colorado
03-11-02, 12:50 AM
I, too, promote the wave, while driving the Corvette or riding the motorcycle. I did give up expecting a response, however.

I thought about the lack of response and realized (regarding Corvettes) ...

The one millionth Corvette was built in 1992, with about 200 thousand added since then. What percentage are still registered and on the road? 80 percent? I don't know. With about a million Corvette owners, give or take 100K, how many are enthusiasts? I don't think we would have a majority of Corvette owners classified as enthusiasts.

To take it a step further, how many non-enthusiast Corvette drivers really care what I think about their driving habits, or the way they act, or the way they represent Corvette enthusiasts? After all, they are not enthusiasts, they are drivers.

Unfortunately, lots and lots of people buy Corvettes because they can. Or maybe the Corvette got handed down, or they won it in a card game, or ...who knows. Nobody has to sign an enthusiast affidavit to own a Corvette. Certain years of Corvettes are regularly found on used car lots along with all the other used cars, and they are priced accordingly. To some extent, they have become a commodity, nothing more, nothing less, and they are treated like that.

It would be nice if all Corvette owners were Corvette enthusiasts. That is not going to happen. However, that will not stop me from promoting the wave, being courteous, being attentive, presenting the best possible image on the road.

I will not expect a return wave, but just in case it's you (an enthusiast) in the other Corvette, I will try. :w

Colorado

:w

78SilvAnniv
03-11-02, 12:54 AM
Rob, you have captured everything with your article!
Looking forward to the next one, so keep 'em coming!

Kenny and I were talking today about road attitude, and how I was treated rudely by another driver, but I did not react back...and I commented that I do not want to be the lady Corvette driver who behaves badly, I'd rather be remembered as being a courteous and polite Corvette driver.

I also tend to stop and talk to other Corvette owners wherever I see them. Everyone I have met has been friendly and is always willing to talk about their Vette! ;)
I have visited a different 'vette 'net site, and was appalled at the language, content, bad attitudes and rudeness expressed by the members. My overall impression was of an orgy of self-expression by any shocking means, spare-no-feelings-at-all.

The visit to that site makes me appreciate CACC for being the high class corvette site on the internet. Waving at everybody! :w
Heidi

Colorado
03-11-02, 01:26 AM
Rob -

Heidi said -

Looking forward to the next one, so keep 'em coming!
Ditto !

Keep up the good work!

Patti
03-11-02, 01:38 AM
Regarding some vette owners having an attitude problem...the attitude problems may have no bearing on the fact they drive a vette..or a newer vette, or a faster vette...they are probably just rude people and act that way in every facet of their lives. They definitely give vette owners a bad name.

Good article, Rob. Like Heidi...I'm looking forward to the next one too. :)

:w
Patti

hotrodd
03-11-02, 01:49 AM
Hi everyone.This post is not to brag or get addaboys at all.I will talk or wave to anybody while I drive my vette.I have stage 4 colon cancer and I enjoy every momemet I drive old sparky.I am trying to get with the american cancer society and see if I could take youngsters for a short cruise that have cancer but letting a stranger take your child for a drive might prevent this and I understandThey would be totally safe but I will talk with people and come up with a solution hopefully.Any ideas?

Patti
03-11-02, 03:09 AM
Hi hotrodd and Welcome to the forum. :) Your idea sounds like a really good one...kids would love to go for a cruise in a vette. Your local hospital may have idea's on how you might go about it.
There may even be support groups for the families in your area and you could visit and talk about your idea. Very sorry about your cancer diagnosis...will keep you in my prayers.

:w
Patti

84c4
03-11-02, 06:08 AM
:upthumbs

69vettester
03-11-02, 04:12 PM
I really need to work on accepting that not so many wave back. My day is susceptible to negative change when I get met with a snotty attitude after my wave. I gotta remember to maintain the mind frame, that its not my problem happening there, and refrain from thinking about chasing the guy down and jerking his ass outta that car :r
Cause ,He may very well be gigger than me :L
Tom

PS..:upthumbs Hotrod

Black Thunder
03-11-02, 04:49 PM
I have been driving Corvettes across a span of 30 years with gaps between ownership. I now live in Florida (Vette heaven) but migrated from Toledo, Ohio in the midwest. I would say that the wave has struggled since my first Vette to my last.

Everything was the same then & will always be this way I'm afraid. Some people just don't get it & never will.

Arrogance among Vette owners especially in the clubs can be brutal. But I keep wavin because some of the best people you will ever meet drive & treasure their Vettes.

Just keep the faith because the tradition & pride you feel owning Americas greatest sportcar is alive & well in most of us & we will keep the wave alive for future generations!
John

Eric
03-11-02, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by hotrodd
I am trying to get with the american cancer society and see if I could take youngsters for a short cruise that have cancer but letting a stranger take your child for a drive might prevent this and I understandThey would be totally safe but I will talk with people and come up with a solution hopefully.Any ideas?

Welcome aboard hotrodd! You're probably right about skeptical parents. I have on several occasions done the next best thing for kids that drool over the Vette at shows. If the kid seems to really dig the car I tell the parents the kid can sit in it if they want. They usually are shocked that I'd even offer and gladly accept to the absolute delight of the child. They usually take photos of the kid in the car and I come away knowing that I have just passed Corvette Fever on to another generation. I can almost always here the child walking away just rambling on about how cool the experience was.

maxrevs85
03-11-02, 10:15 PM
Learned about the wave 31 yrs ago with the 1st Vette, thought it was realy "far out " then. Still think it is. :D........Welcome Hot Rod:)

69MyWay
03-12-02, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by hotrodd
Hi everyone.This post is not to brag or get addaboys at all.I will talk or wave to anybody while I drive my vette.I have stage 4 colon cancer and I enjoy every momemet I drive old sparky.I am trying to get with the american cancer society and see if I could take youngsters for a short cruise that have cancer but letting a stranger take your child for a drive might prevent this and I understandThey would be totally safe but I will talk with people and come up with a solution hopefully.Any ideas?

Great idea Hotrod! I try to find the good in everything, but get frustrated myself with some of the "better than thou" people that share our sport. I constantly struggle to keep my own ego in check.

Working in the community is a rewarding and beneficial, especially if you can do it in conjunction with your love for the Vette.

I am a hospice volunteer, but have backed off from that to focus on getting my car ready for Sharkfest 2002. I have had an idea in the back of my mind to combine the love for my car, community, and the good of others with hospice in the future. I would also like to take my car to see people of all ages (especially children) and take them for a ride and let them listen to the engine rumble. I would like my car to have a purpose beyond making me happy, but to spread joy to others in need of some cheering up. I saw where a fellow with an original Shelby Cobra does something like this for a particular childrens charity.

There is just something about the shape, sounds, and feel of a Corvette that can make the weakest heart beat a little faster.

Right on Rob!

Mad-Mic
03-12-02, 03:04 PM
Rob i've seen the same thing in my short month of vette ownership. Being only 29 and looking alittle young to be driving a vette i noticed the waves and thought i was in a new bracket so you could say. I enjoy it when someone waves back or waves first. i get alot of compliments on my baby cause how clean she is but the other night i pulled along a 90 series c-4 and another young guy was driving it. He was street racing around the local cruising strip. Well we pulled up at a light and he was making a left and i looked over and gave him a wave and he looked back then just looked forward like a pompous ass. ( i could read his mind....you got round tail lights your not worthy) Well you get the point he made his left and i went on my merry way. The first wave i got i was estatic over it. I thought that was the coolest! I went over my uncles who owns a sweet 95 and we talked and i told him about the wave he said yeah thats what owning a vette is about! I've been lucky enough to pull along side of vette owners at a gas station and one was this chick (and yes she was pretty hot!) she shared my same philosophy loose an X buy a vette...hehe we talked for about a 1/2 hour at the shell station... All in all i'll wave to all and if they don't well they are missing something special and won't ever be happy with a vette....

JT ZR-Won
03-19-02, 06:30 PM
Great write up Rob. I always wave!:w

Jay

Dad
03-19-02, 06:55 PM
I always wave, so everyone will get out of my way. You never know what an old man will do with that much power under his foot. :eyerole

Hotrod, try to get hooked up with your local Corvette club, and Fire Department to take the kids for a ride. Make a full day of it or plan it during a fund raising cookout and they will generally go along with it when there is a group. By the way, I could not use my 98 because of the air bag, you need to be able to disengage them to take a child under a certain weight or size.

Good Luck and keep the faith.

jillingworth
03-29-02, 10:17 AM
Great story and to the point. I put all my gold chains on Ebay after reading it.:cool

kustomvette
04-02-02, 10:56 PM
i agree rob ,i have seen it time and time again,but i always will do it even if it is to just **** them off.i even give the wave driving my extreme s-10,talk about the weird looks then!! people are strange ,what can ya do................joe

98TXRed
04-18-02, 10:21 AM
I learned about the Wave from this site almost immediately after getting my Vette about 9 months ago. Iíve been preaching to my wife about the Tradition of the Wave. Well, a couple of weeks ago, I was out of town and she took over driving the Vette (itís a dirty job, but someone has to). She saw another Vette and decided to join the Wave Tradition. She told me that the guy had a shocked look on his face like she was trying to pick him up (and didnít return the Wave); she said ďNever againĒ. By the way, my wife is a good-looking woman, so it wasnít from disgusted (yes, Iím lucky since she also bought me the Vette).

So much for expanding the Wave Tradition! :( :( :(

DkBG
04-18-02, 04:07 PM
On our trip to the museum Mon, & Tue. I bet I waved at fifty Vettes . None waved back .

sac001
05-21-02, 08:39 AM
Always wave, if you get one back even better! When I first got my vette, I was thinking the same, that new vette drivers just didn't wave to the older vettes. Then one day I'm trying to pull out onto a busy road, and along comes a new vette convertible, not only did she wave first, but she slowed down and waved me in front of her!

I don't care if they wave back, but I always smile and wave. My kids also always wave, even from the minivan, they'll give a thumbs up, imagine the surprised looks they get from that!

One of the other thrills I get is when the kids wave to me and yell out "cool car", a smile and a wave makes their day, and re-generates the love and tradition. Incidently, I don't think there is a kid in the neighborhood who hasn't ridden in my vette, and if there is, I'm sure to hear about it.

Save the wave :w

Dad
05-21-02, 05:06 PM
sac001,

You had part of that right, the new vette drivers, not the drivers with new vettes, would be more correct. The older vette drivers, not the same breed anywhere. My first was in '57, now I'm in my '98, still waving. I sometimes think it may be the sign of the times, just don't have time to do that wave anymore.

Next month Iím going to set my cruse at 35 MPH, turn on my left turn signal, drive on the road most of the time and on the centerline the rest of the time. Look between the dash and the steering wheel, make abrupt turns into drug stores, stop in the road when I need to figure out where I am, BUT, I will wave at you, that's if I can see you. Now, what were we talking about??

Oh yeah, did I tell you I'm finally going to retire. :t

DkBG
05-21-02, 07:01 PM
I thought you Buckeyes drove like that everyday ! Congratulations on retireing . Lets go for a cruise sometime . Cliff

JaggeedFire
06-23-02, 07:54 PM
Hello all....newbie here. Ive found the same only among new cars. Every c1-c3 'rs have waved. I wave at all 'Vettes, no matter what im in. Hope some day they all catch the addiction!!

Save the wave!

Nicholas

Rob
06-23-02, 08:13 PM
Welcome to the Corvette Action Center Nicholas. :):w

mcditalia
12-07-03, 09:04 PM
Good article,

I don't think I've done so much waving in my life before I got my motorcycle and my vette.

Just to expand on the comments that were already said. On my bike ( I have a zx-6, "rice burner""crotch rocket", whatever..... Its a motorcycle for christ sakes!) I quickly found out about all the little clicks that people want to be categorized in. While all or most sport bike riders would usually wave to me the Harley crowd would not while I just waved at all bike riders, not because of the brand of bike they had but because we obviously shared the open road. There are some cruiser guys that give me the wave and I do the same, again because we share a common interest/passion/vision, whatever you want to call it. I think it's pretty sad when I ride mi bike and Harley guys are just too cool to wave back. I almost laugh at how tough they try to seem with their scouring facial expressions. But then I noticed on some of my longer rides that some Harley guys don't even acknowledge their own kind.

Getting back to the vette wave. I think your going to find ass**** in every part of society that you look, whether its the Ferrari crowd, Vette crowd, whatever. These are the guys that buy cars, motorcycles...etc. soley to be egocentric and not to become a part of a larger understanding/culture which most people are enjoying on the road and with other fellow enthusiasts.

Enjoy the ride!
MC

bluecoupe
01-22-04, 10:49 AM
It does get confusing. I try to waive to other Corvettes unless I am hanging on for dear life pushing toward 1 G in a curve. Sometimes I borrow my son's Jeep Wrangler and these Jeep guys wave to me. I have to think for a split second then realize I'm in a Jeep. I am so used to waving to Corvettes that when I see a Corvette and waive when I'm in the Jeep or my other cars. They must think I am crazy. :crazy
I used to ride motorcycles including several Harleys. I would always wave to all makes of motorcycles. If you have the ba**s to ride you deserve a wave :w

maddadd69
01-23-04, 03:54 AM
I am not new the the vette scene. I got my first vette in 1973 a blue '72 coupe. Since then I have had a '61 in need of restoring but driven regularly, a '75 Silver coupe, and now my 2001 Mag.Red coupe. Right from the beginning when ever another vette passes me I always wave and always have. It's part of the Corvette culture and always has been. I completely agree with Rob that it should continue. I have posted on this subject in another thread before so I won't get too wordy here!

SAVE THE WAVE :w

Morgan

p.s. had anyone heard from or about hotrod. (he hasen't posted since august) when i read his reply here this morning i send him an email. if anyone has any info please let me know because i would really like to talk to him.
thanks

Patrick
01-26-04, 10:57 PM
I am fortunate enough to now be in my second Corvette. When I purchased my first one, the salesman actually took the time to explain the wave tradition to me- from what I gather, this is somewhat rare. I've been waving at every Corvette I come across on the road ever since.

Some wave back, some don't. I don't spend any time fretting about those that don't.

I enjoy receiving the wave back in return. As Rob so eloquently said, the wave is an expression of appreciation in a marquee, and all it's heritage, and all its performance. Those that get the point of the wave are the enthusiastic Corvette owners, not the showoffs. And those enthusiasts are the ones I like to believe have the philosophy I want to share.

Save the wave, everyone!
-Patrick

hAZcAT
01-27-04, 11:47 PM
I will wave to any vette, or cool sports car, any Bronco or cool 4x4, (I have a great bronco it goes everywhere even on top of my sisters 97 camero) about the only thing I won't wave to is a rice boy car (those with more stickers showing than paint, hard to wave when laughing that hard) but I do love the idea that I put a sticker on my car and it goes fast, but that is another story.. :w

froggy47
01-28-04, 12:12 AM
Hi Rob,

It's not just some Vette drivers, it's also some golfers, boat owners, you name it. There are jerks in any sport or hobby. I just ignore 'em.

redc4corvette
03-03-04, 05:14 AM
Don't feel bad when someone doesnt wave, where I live your luckey if anyone on the road even knows what a corvette is.But that is Maui not a lot of vetts over here.

doylede
03-21-04, 01:16 AM
Rob,
I can't speak for other C5 owners, nor can I describe the behavior of any "majority" of C4 owners.

What I can tell you is very simple and personal. My experiences as a C5 owner on-line and on-road.

On-road I try to always wave to other Corvettes because I believe that we do have a shared experience that no foreign car can duplicate. In return, I find that some C5 owners don't return the wave, but the C4 owners spurn me about half the time. Older Vette owners almost always return the wave.

On-line I find that there is a small percentage of C4 owners that are not aware of the improvements made after the 12 year run of the C4 or don't care. You know how bad some of the C4 cars were; you have referred to the reasons in your columns - government enforced polution limits, gas milage targets, etc. The result of these problems was to build some very poor performing C4's.
The total corvette experience should include acknowledgement that some Corvette years are not good performance cars. I'm really tired of C4 owners trying to claim that the C4 was the best ever Vette. This is simply not true. In fact, the C4 may be the worst ever Corvette generation for it's time.

Here's my summary. Feel free to vilify. As Kris Kristofferson said, "Everybody needs somebody to look down on... If you can't find nobody else, help yourself to me".

The C1 wasn't much until the end (60-62)

The C2 was a new breath - maybe the best Vette of all time

The C3 messed up the C2 by trying to be a muscle car instead of a sports car - way more power than the chassis could handle.

The C4 ran for so long that one comment is inapropriate. Early C4's were weak in performance to an extreme. Late C4's were still still so weak that Lingenfelter could only make 330 HP from a 1989. The chassis was so wobbly that it became a legend. "Take the tops out and the handling changes".

The C5 was a breath of fresh air. It put the sports car back in Corvette. "world class" Maybe - maybe a reach. Anyway, a huge improvement.

The C6 will really be "world class" if the promises are delivered.

RC135_Tx
03-21-04, 10:28 AM
Hi Rob,

It's not just some Vette drivers, it's also some golfers, boat owners, you name it. There are jerks in any sport or hobby. I just ignore 'em.
I just got my first 'Vette this January (hey, it's Texas!). I didn't know if I just thought I wanted one or if I'd really enjoy it. Now I know the answer. Permanent grin & I'm happy to wave to anybody!! Life is indeed too short to waste.

koolaid117
04-02-04, 07:43 PM
I had a two different Jeep Wranglers at different times. Some would wave, some wouldn't. The Jeep slogan "It's a Jeep thing, you wouldn't understand" applies here as well. Some Corvette owners get it (the ones here at the CAC), some don't. Save a wave for me! :w

slong
04-07-04, 10:08 PM
Well said.
I wave at other Vette drivers, and some just look at you as if your dirt. Most of the time they do :w

Stealth1
04-18-04, 01:23 PM
Well said.
I wave at other Vette drivers, and some just look at you as if your dirt. Most of the time they do :wI am a first time vette owner. Gotta admit getting snubbed did bother me at first but I think the snubers are either just idiots or have no car sense
at all. It doesnt even phase me anymore. I'm gonna keep on wav'n cause I love vette's.:cool

partspup
11-07-04, 06:27 PM
One of the first thing I learned was about the wave, then when I took my granson and neice for a ride I let them do the wave and they thought it was sooo cool! now anytime they ride with me they are on the lookout for other vettes. :w

MsSchroder
11-07-04, 06:40 PM
Today was a good day for the wave.

I was 2 out of 2 from C5 owners, and each time, they waved broadly out of their window after they passed me in another lane of busy traffic. Not just desultory waves, but outgoing, isn't-the-corvette-lifestyle-great waves. :cool

hoosierdaddy
12-06-04, 07:23 PM
Very, very and very well said!!!!! We need to set the example, in fact we do, when you are :Steer the all AMERICAN SPORTS CAR, have respect for it and all others as well. . . . .whether they drive one or not.
Bill B. :w

Larry's Yellow Rdstr
12-03-06, 09:49 AM
I am a car lover and have owned many exciting cars in my 63 years. In my salad years I have owned and sometimes driven vehicles that would have been at home in a junk yard.
I currently own a 2005 C6 and a 2005 Porsche GT3 Mark ll. Each has its own merits and I really enjoy driving both of them. I ALWAYS wave to Corvette and usually get a return wave 75% of the time. I ALWYS wave to Porsches and rarely get a return wave. (how do you know the difference between a Porcupine and a Porsche owner)
It has always escaped me why some people cop an attitude when they get behind the wheel of a Porsche. There are quite a few P car owners in my neighborhood and with the exception of two they are pricks, never returning a wave and sometimes deliberately looking the other way should we pass each other.
Know what I do. I wave anyway and honk my horn incessantly. Seems to **** them off. Life is good, but I need a louder horn!!

jgrimes227
04-20-07, 08:50 AM
It used to be sports car owners waved at one another, regardless of the margue. I like to wave to greet another enthusiast!! But frankly many drivers are NOT enthusiasts, they are poseurs. They drive a nice car for the cachet they presumably get from driving a nice car. They don't necessarily drive a nice car because it is a nice car - only for the one-upmanship that accrues from it. I just keep on waving!! Maybe my joy in driving will rub off on them - we don't need to to develop our own snarky attitude - we just need to develop our joy!! SAVE THE WAVE

o2bnkc
04-20-07, 11:32 PM
While all or most sport bike riders would usually wave to me the Harley crowd would not while I just waved at all bike riders, not because of the brand of bike they had but because we obviously shared the open road. There are some cruiser guys that give me the wave and I do the same, again because we share a common interest/passion/vision, whatever you want to call it. I think it's pretty sad when I ride mi bike and Harley guys are just too cool to wave back. I almost laugh at how tough they try to seem with their scouring facial expressions. But then I noticed on some of my longer rides that some Harley guys don't even acknowledge their own kind.

It sounds like you have a little attitude against H-Ds. Maybe you just don't see us wave since you're usually blowing by at 130 m.p.h. I'll admit, I don't wave unless somebody waves at me first. No big deal. If I wanted to wave, I'd join a parade. As far as the "scouring facial expressions," I think it is a from watching a person ride a motorcycle ( or should I say "sport bike') looking like a monkey humping a coconut. Driving the vette I always wave at another one, even if they don't. It's a vette tradition.