View Full Version : L@@ked @ some HD's today, the V-Rods look nice...

6 Shooter
08-23-14, 04:59 PM
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08-23-14, 07:41 PM
Yes they do, and I didn't go check them out and eat all their food at their open house. :chuckle

6 Shooter
08-24-14, 12:52 AM

08-24-14, 12:55 AM
As much as I enjoy my Harley, I don't know if I would go HD again or not. In case you weren't aware, HD gets the same kind of "treatment" that Corvettes do... extra cost for insurance, extra cost for parts, etc etc... It is frustrating to always end up paying more for no other reason than the name on the side.


6 Shooter
08-24-14, 01:09 AM
Yep, back in the day that'd bother me Mac. These days money is not as much of an issue as it once was. I've decided to forgo a C7, so old Yellar will continue to see mods and enhancements over the years. I'm directing my "want" desire toward an HD, and the V-Rods seem to perform well and are priced somewhat reasonable. Ain't in any hurry, but Lord willing, I'll have one in the garage someday.

08-24-14, 12:55 PM
If I was buying, the V-Rod would be on the short list. Nice bike.

My current ride is a 1980 Super Glide, 4-5/8" S&S wheels, Axtell 3-13/16" barrels, heads are done, dual plugs, dual fire (two coils not waste spark) S&S 495 cam, .495 lift 274 duration, S&S 2" Super etc. The transmission is Andrews gears and shafts, Barnett multi-plate clutch and springs.
I built it and others and a bud does the machine work (open the spigots).

All my hobbies have torque or recoil. :D

Back when it meant something, HD stood for hundred dollar. However, Europeans are not a cheap date and although third in after purchase costs, neither a Japanese. At least with HD and Euro, resale values hold a lot stronger. None of them are inexpensive.

08-24-14, 04:24 PM
Blasphamy.......Hog's have to be air cooled......and sound like God intended them to sound.....and not have an engine designed by Pooorcha......:D

On the other hand I always have wanted to take one for a ride.....to feel the smooth effortless power and not have to wear earplugs so I can hear something after a days ride........and not have the engine shake while at idle......hmmm...wish they'd put that motor in a bagger.....:beer

08-24-14, 04:55 PM
The nice thing about Harleys is they make enough different models that everybody can find one they like.

08-24-14, 07:09 PM
Back when it meant something, HD stood for hundred dollar. However, Europeans are not a cheap date and although third in after purchase costs, neither a Japanese. At least with HD and Euro, resale values hold a lot stronger. None of them are inexpensive.
I haven't had a Japanese bike since the late 90s. At that point, servicing my 1986 Suzuki GS550EF was cheap.


The insurance wasn't expensive either but it was below that magical 600cc line above which insurance gets ridiculous.

My current ride is a 2006 HD FLHP 1450cc. Although I know it isn't fair to compare costs since we're talking completely different bikes plus I've moved to a different area where insurance is handled differently, it still grinds my gears to pay so much more for everything.


I haven't owned a Euro bike. A buddy had an Italian bike for a while... a Ducati 1100 "Monster" and he said servicing was massively expensive. Oil changes & check up in the $400 range...


08-24-14, 08:38 PM
Hey 6er, You have a good idea there, that V-Rod goes! I think Harley needs to follow up on that scoot with updates and such. Well, it's water-cooled but there's plenty of Air Hogs too. I picked up a 2008 Low Rider a couple months ago after being Harley-less for 20 years. I'll tell ya this: that bike AIN"T SLOW!! 96 cu.in. into a 6-speed - plenty of go-power for reality (read lines of trucks on the highway). I would like to sell it so I could pick up a new Switchback (damn goofy name), a touring scoot done up on the Dyna frame like the old FLH.
Also in the All-American dept. are the Victory, with it's swoopy styling, and the new Indians - both fine Polaris products. Then, you have Motus, with their half-a-smallblock Chevy engines, and the Hellcat from Alabama.
On the British side, you have the return of Norton, with the new 961 commando in 3 variants.
I could go on :blah but you get the idea.
If ya pick up a scoot though, stay alert, sunny-side up and all that.
All the best :beer

6 Shooter
08-24-14, 09:40 PM


6 Shooter
08-24-14, 09:47 PM



08-24-14, 11:39 PM
Speaking of old dirt bikes......anyone know what this is...? I found it several years back in an old garage. The guy had bought it new in 1964 and had kept it for 50 years.....I finally got it bought not to long ago and will start to restore it hopefully this winter......I bought one like it in 1968 when I was at college to get around on and had several more back in the day. It's a 64 Honda CL72 250cc Scrambler.....the 250 was one year only and then they went to 305's.......whoa....we are talking big inch now....this bike has the holes in the end of the exhaust pipes for snuffers to keep it quiet around town and then open it up when you wanted some noise......:thumb I do have the heat shields for the pipes.......I need the correct handlebars though.....EBay time.....

http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad155/Ultraman59/IMG_20130719_182842_660_zps182eb6a2.jpg (http://s931.photobucket.com/user/Ultraman59/media/IMG_20130719_182842_660_zps182eb6a2.jpg.html)

08-25-14, 12:04 AM
Here is what they looked like out of the box.......mmmmm.....17 second 1/4 mile......;LOL well I guess that's not bad for 25 hp.....It's what I started riding on......in 71 I bought a 69 HD Sportster and the rest is history..... From Sporty's to Pans to Shovels to Twin Cams.....lots of fun......

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08-25-14, 06:19 PM
Confederate Motorcycles (http://confederate.com/) Home of the Hellcat. A lawyer was the money behind the Confederate line. Big engines and I don't know if they still flip the transmission.

I have to dig to find a picture of my Panhead. Rigid and same deal as usual big barrels and long stroke; re-worked an aluminum drag frame to get the weight off. 105" and it wasn't heavy, so it was quick. Best way to build a customer base is ride what you sell.


Not a good picture but...

My bud and I had a shop for 20 years until I moved to Detroit. Un-authorized sales and service. ;) Anything from tune ups to rebuilds; plus fun stuff, Shov-ster, 45 Magnum, S&S kits.

Another bud owned (still does) a Kaw GPz 1100, put some kind of big bore on it; flat slide Mikunis. Ran mid-10s w/o an air shifter. :D

08-25-14, 07:06 PM
Nice Chovel Mon....here is one we built way back when....Sporty's rule....! Like it was on rails on the highway but a real bitch around town...:D

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08-25-14, 07:13 PM
Geez...now ya got me going.....me on the Blue Pan.....80" UL wheels.....Mikuni carb I think.....coming back from Sturgis in 76 or 77.....we don't need no stinking windshields.....:beer

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08-25-14, 09:06 PM
Sweet bikes. :thumb:thumb

Now that we have you started...

You look like one of those we are the people your parents warned you about.. ;) :D


The front brake didn't last a summer.

I pressed the sporty stem out and we machined a stem to use Timkens instead of the loose ball set up. The sissy bar means my daughter started packing.
That is a real tombstone tail light and goose derby. The primary is compensator type, but no hole up front. Axed Harley bobs. 12V Sporty generator. The mouse trap made pulling all those plates and HD springs a lot easier..

We could have fixed you up with a shovel top. ;)

I built a Sporty with 4-13/16" stroke and a shovel top. Wickedly quick. :D

Having a journeyman machinist with lathes, mills made life fun.

08-26-14, 09:18 AM
Nice Pan chopper.....don't see many mousetraps anymore......a Shovester? That would have been wild......trying to find a pic of my Shovel....will post later......hope we aren't....:hijackthis thread.......:D

08-26-14, 06:46 PM
Loving the pics and stories, gents. :)


08-26-14, 09:39 PM
We are old generation riders. :D

To get a clutch to hold; I put in a Barrett 7 friction plates with some wicked springs. It was a bear in traffic so I put an old mouse trap on it. It pulled about the same as a mouse trap eliminator with strong springs. Sometimes WAGs work and sometimes they don't.

As the Sporty has 4 individual tappet blocks and a Shovel has two; the push rod clearance in the barrels needs milled for clearance. Other than bore the spigots, and clearance the piston skirts, that was about all there is to it. A big cam or cams makes them easier to kick start.
The weak spot of big inch Iron heads was the transmission.To keep it from breaking the cases; added material to the counter shaft sprocket side to fully support the bearing race. Harley's machining uses too sharp a radius. My guess is the radius was 0 to .03 to maximize tool life; a sharp radius is a stress riser.
Align bored the trap door to the c-shaft bearing also. Sold it to a bud about 25 years ago; about 93" and it is still running fine.

A 45 Magnum is a flat head 45 with an Iron Head Sporty top. More fun from the looks it got than being quick.

08-27-14, 05:59 PM
I had a friend way back who was a Sportster freak and was working with a small company back then to make his Sporty badass. The name of the company was S&S......they knew what they were doing....The bike was slammed and had a chrome frame.....when I had drank to many beers I could not take my eyes off that frame....it was beauuuutiful......I mean we lusted after chrome stuff for our bikes but it was a lot of money and this kid had a chrome frame....had to send it someplace far off to have it done...anyway the bike was legendary and I don't think back in the early 70's that it ever had been beat by anything...He always had it painted black and orange, his last name was Hoben.....so we all called him Harley Hoben......nice kid had a real job like a manager of a store and a great looking girl friend......

I was sitting in Saloon #10 having a cold one when a friend walked in and told me Hoben and his girl had been killed on the road from Deadwood to Sturgis which was back then a narrow windy road that had a bad rep for killing bikers. There was an unofficial race where you would see how fast you could make it from #10 to a bar in Sturgis and he must have been trying to beat it.....still a couple of Why Die crosses on that corner today 40 years later.....I just went and packed up my stuff and rode home that year......

Here was me on my first Sporty.....just got it...its an XLH....so had a touring fuel tank....I'm so clean cut and innocent.....I went right from a Honda 305 to a 900 HD.....first time I got on it up through the gears I got a huge grin on my face...you know the grin....only very special events in life can give you that grin.....

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Of course I could not leave it alone and this is same bike 2 or 3 years later up at Sturgis.....all of a sudden I'm am that someone that you didn't want your daughter to look at.....:D Mount up hombres...tonight we ride!

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08-27-14, 08:16 PM
Frisco tank. It might be the angle, but looks wider than usual. Nice paint also. When it came to paint, I never mastered anything but color, clear and pearl.
I bought a lot of parts off S&S. At first they were in Blue Island, Ill; then they moved to Viola, WI. Back in the day, Mrs. Smith (Marge) used to answer the phone. I got the impression he was the engineering and machinist; she was the business person. Being polite was wise; I even got a free S&S Jersey.
Back then they made wheels, in the mid-1970s, the 3-5/8" bore and 4.25, 4.5, 4.75 and 5" strokes. Now, they make whole engines.

I know where you mean. I haven't been to Sturgis since the late 1980s. You've heard the old saying Ride Hard, Die Fast.

I owned one Japanese bike, one of those Kawasaki triples and I sold it in a couple of months. It was supposed to be fast, I had to have it and she blew it away without even half trying in the 69 BB. Went back to what I knew best.

08-27-14, 10:41 PM
We are old generation riders. :D
The true survivors. :D


6 Shooter
08-28-14, 02:26 AM

08-28-14, 10:43 AM
They are also available in yellow... just saying... ;)



6 Shooter
09-10-14, 03:13 AM

09-10-14, 09:22 PM
That is gorgeous!!



09-11-14, 08:40 PM
The owner likes a quick handling bike. I rode with drag bars on 6" risers for about 20 years; steering response is quick. :)

02-21-15, 06:09 PM

I don't V-Rod but this works for me.:D