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    Quote Originally Posted by Tikitb8 View Post
    Again..... a sad attempt at selling cars based on the name of a success.

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    What Mo said. Whatever, it certainly won't diminish the value or enjoyment factor of our '96 Grand Sports, which themselves are just wonderful tributes to the original. If this helps keep Corvette as a viable brand, knock themselves out. It's all good.
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    Anything is better than NO Corvette IMHO.
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    The stripes work for me. But then as an owner of the 04 commemorative edition, I am somewhat biased. Wonder if it will get a blower?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tikitb8 View Post
    Again..... a sad attempt at selling cars based on the name of a success.

    Mo
    What do you mean "a sad attempt?"....Your negative comments are not welcome here in this forum!...if you don't like the new GS, don't buy it!...we have to be supportive of GM and Chevrolet in this time of crisis, my friend!!...if you don't like Corvettes, then why do you own several?...can you explain that one to me??...it doesn't take a rocket scientist!!

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    I think the wide body corvette is the best attempt to sell more vehicles..

    Corvette owners and new buyers will flock to the wide body grand sport ..

    thats smart business..

    Of course the wide body will require larger wheels and tires....so maybe GM will offer the grand sport with NON RUNFLAT TIRES!

    Now if GM would add in direct injection and offer up another 10% horsepower that would be wild...yet I wouldn't count on that...(in this business enviroment)

    so lets be hopeful we get a widebody with wider tires and wheels..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    Think wide body like the ZR1 and Z06.
    "A widebody does not a Z06 or ZR1 make."

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbrady View Post
    My guess is that it will be pathetic, since the team that put together the '96 Grand Sport, led by the legendary John Heinricy, put their hearts and souls into creating something truly special to mark the end of the C-4 run, instead of making it an afterthought, which the 2010 0ne-of-six options is likely to be. How sad!!! : ( : ( : (

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    Just curious, what are you referring to regarding Heinricy and the '96 GS? Also, what heart and soul in the car are you referring to? It's a decal pacakge and larger rear wheels that differentiate it from the base car.

    Also as far as marking the end of the C4 run, it shared that limelight with the Collector's Edition. So the 1 of 6 thing of a C6 GS wasn't much different for the C4 GS.

    I am certainly not trying to knock the car, I just found it pretty weird you ripping on GM if they introduce something that is mainly an appearance package to keep sales going, yet hold up as a shining example what was an appearance package to keep sales going.

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    Just decals or stripes and I wouldn't think to much of it...but ....and its a big butt..

    Add wider fender flares, wider wheels and wider tires and you have a true performance improvement...worthy of the grand sport name..

    lets remember the Z51 corvette as it sits this year has a top speed of 190mph..and thats not something to frown upon..

    Same can be said of its 4.1 second runs to 60mph...or its handling and braking capability...

    The wide body Grand sport will if priced correctly be extremely well recieved in the marketplace..

    and in the sports car world...

    Lets face it...the c6 z51 base car tops out at 190mph...and is truly a sports car supercar icon...

    The grand sport is just a slightly richer flavor..(if it has the widebody/wide wheels and tires)

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    You think the '96 GS is a good tribute to the orginal? You really need to read up on your Corvette history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hutch View Post
    What Mo said. Whatever, it certainly won't diminish the value or enjoyment factor of our '96 Grand Sports, which themselves are just wonderful tributes to the original. If this helps keep Corvette as a viable brand, knock themselves out. It's all good.

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    The 96 grand sport was a hell of a performance car...

    it regularly smoked c5's at the drag strip too..

    That LT4 motor was bad @ss for the time...IMO and underated..

    In this economy to get people to open their wallets ..GM needs more than stripes and decals..

    Big @ss wheels and tires on a wide body would be the ticket to get people into buying at MSRP or at least without all the discounts..

    Now if GM goes and rips the consumer off for the wide body Grand sport..

    Well they will get what they deserve....which will be slow sales until they discount the product..

    My feeling is 5 grand would be fine for a wide body C6 with the grand sport stripes.. over and above a C6 Z51.

    non runflat tires would be a smoking good idea..

    not sure the GM faithful could wrap the brains around that one..but if they could...the drop of 25 lbs of unsprung weight over the runflats would be a hell of a smart move and would probably cut the cost quite a bit..

    I'm pumped..I can't wait to the news release on this car..

    If gm does the wide tire, wide wheel thing...the magazines will go nuts over the car for the next three months with corvette comparos etc..

    Add in the camaro SS, the Cobalt SS,the HHR SS, the Corvette Grand sport...the Z06..the ZR1...

    Thats the smokin hottest lineup in the entire United states..


    make one hell of a press release.

    Forget the global recession.....and all the doom and gloom..

    (and the cars all get....excellent gas mileage too))

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora40 View Post
    Just curious, what are you referring to regarding Heinricy and the '96 GS? Also, what heart and soul in the car are you referring to? It's a decal pacakge and larger rear wheels that differentiate it from the base car.

    Also as far as marking the end of the C4 run, it shared that limelight with the Collector's Edition. So the 1 of 6 thing of a C6 GS wasn't much different for the C4 GS.

    I am certainly not trying to knock the car, I just found it pretty weird you ripping on GM if they introduce something that is mainly an appearance package to keep sales going, yet hold up as a shining example what was an appearance package to keep sales going.
    Thanks Aurora40, I couldn't have said it better myself (and was just about to try before you saved me the trouble). I do have a bit to add, though. The LT4 is a great motor but it was a necessity, not some stroke of genius or outpouring of heart and soul.

    1996 wasn't even supposed to be a C4 year. C5 should have been done by then, but due to the LAST GM apocalypse in 1990 it kept getting pushed back. If not for the side-impact standards of 1997 it would've been pushed out to there too, but there was no way for C4's structure to meet those standards. 1996 was the last year for a car that had been designed in the '70s with pencils, protractors and slide-rules. It had so many well-known and insurmountable engineering flaws that it could no longer be re-engineered to meet governmental regulations for emissions and crashworthiness, not to mention structural rigidity to meet performance and customer satisfaction goals, without a ground-up redesign. It desperately needed to be replaced, but Chevrolet still had to sell one more year of it after 1995, the last OBD-I year. Everyone knew C5 was coming and how great it was going to be, so 1996 would have been a tough year to sell any Corvettes with only an LT1 on the order sheet in the shadow of ZR-1's six-year run. They needed a special engine option. LT5 production had been stopped since 1993, and it would have been cost-prohibitive to rework it for OBD-II anyway. So the production-ready engineering work that would have produced the stillborn GEN-III small-block went into the LT1 to make the LT4, and made OBD-II compliance for both engines fairly easy due to their similarity.

    Point is, the '96 Grand Sport is in no way a glorious homage to the originals, and if you want to see an example of John Heinricy's heart and soul in a car, it's in Snake Skinner, not the '96 Grand Sport. The GS came straight from Chevy's marketing department, not John.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tikitb8 View Post
    Again..... a sad attempt at selling cars based on the name of a success.

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    I guess it's pretty obvious why GM is in the position that they are.
    Doesn't anyone have the creativity to at least dream up a new name, let alone a new paint design scheme these days? First they re-use the ZR-1, confusing everyone whether you ar etalking about and "old" one or a new one, now they dupe the nameplate of another recent icon.

    Let's not forget when they called a V-6 Blazer the "ZR-2".

    The guys at GM used to tell me that GM was a great place to get experience before you went to work for a good automaker. Maybe the people who name cars are all gone.

    I can think of a few off hand.

    How about the Demovette? No down payments and payments for the rest of your life.

    Or how about the Stimulavette? Once its broke you just keep dumping money into it.

    And of course we could all use a BarneyVette. It has the jack and handle shoved up the exhaust....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceves81 View Post
    What do you mean "a sad attempt?"....Your negative comments are not welcome here in this forum!...if you don't like the new GS, don't buy it!...we have to be supportive of GM and Chevrolet in this time of crisis, my friend!!...if you don't like Corvettes, then why do you own several?...can you explain that one to me??...it doesn't take a rocket scientist!!
    Ummmm, who died and left you in charge of "what's welcome on this forum"?
    Let's just say I won't lower myself to your level to reply any further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sting Ray View Post
    You think the '96 GS is a good tribute to the orginal? You really need to read up on your Corvette history.

    Tom M
    As you said, it was a tribute. I think that is what GM may have been after, and probably a good idea. We will never replicate history, but imitation is the best form of flattery. ;-)

    Mo

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    whats the GM release date for information on the new Grand sport?

    April what?

    TIA

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