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- 05-16-08, 08:08 PM #1
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Running a Car with Water - Is this a scam?
I saw this on You Tube... Can this be true or is this a scam? Seems too good to be true.
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- 05-16-08, 10:47 PM #2
I've seen that for a couple of years now, if it were true it would be being done and all out in the open!
- 05-16-08, 10:58 PM #3
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- '67 Marina Blue Convertible
Scam. They're coming out of the woodwork as gas prices continue to rise; next month there'll be some guy claiming his car runs on bat guano.
- 05-17-08, 12:03 AM #4
- 05-17-08, 06:44 PM #5
If I am not mistaken this is a system where you still run on gasoline but you apply an electrical charge to a container with water and plates similar to a battery. This produces Hydrogen and oxygen. A vacuum hose pulls the gasses into the intake and supplements the gasoline. This is supposed to improve millage considerably.
If I can find the information on how to build this myself I plan on trying it .
- 05-17-08, 08:02 PM #6
You cannot get more energy out of a system than you put in. The amount of fuel needed to convert water to hydrogen and oxygen will be more than you can get back out of it. Some of the energy will be converted to heat. There is no free lunch.Save the Wave!
- 05-18-08, 06:53 AM #7
- 05-23-08, 11:50 AM #8
ammonia and 66% water.
The basics of the system are that Urea is injected in to the exhaust stream in a pre-cat. The ammonia reacts with the NOx molecules, and turns them in to CO2 and N2. The CO2 is then scrubbed from the system by the standard cat.
As for running your car on water. I've done a fair amount of research, and I think there is some truth to it. I know a guy who claims to have a hydrogen generator on his vehicle. He claims it increases his gas mileage by ~20%... I'm thinking I might try it on my beater, when I get one towards the end of the summer. Wish me luck.
- 05-23-08, 12:36 PM #9
How is the hydrogen generated? Is there some method besides electrolysis?
- 05-23-08, 01:01 PM #10
- 05-23-08, 04:33 PM #11
I've also seen a story on the news about a car that runs on used cooking grease.
- 05-23-08, 04:51 PM #12
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- 05-23-08, 05:03 PM #13
- 05-26-08, 07:59 PM #14
On the H2 it isn't free power but it may help the gasoline burn cleaner. For a lot of yrs propane has been added to diesels for added power and economy. I know it works because I have installed quite a number of them. What the propane does is help burn the heavy ends of the diesel. 20 % increase in power comes real easy. I have noticed now that these systems are offered again as performance add ons. If anyone wants information on this PM me and I will explain how it works and is done. Cost is minimal.
Where this got it's start was on farm tractors.
- 05-26-08, 08:57 PM #15
When Mr. Diesel (I forget his first name) first reveiled his diesel engine at the 1904 St. Louis World's Fair he used cooking oil! I've heard of guys using water injectors in their diesel engines to get better milage. Being in the trucking business and my daily driver (Kenworth) averaging about 6 miles a gallon, I'm game for anything if it works!A Proud U.S. Navy Veteran
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