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    Quote Originally Posted by 01TriBlack
    Some great, great information! Thanks so much.

    When you all clay-bar the car, do you actually feel it's doing anything as you're actually clay-ing? I clay-barred my '96 once and kind of just shrugged, quitting after 1/2 the hood because I wasn't convinced it was doing anything. Was it?

    I've always used Meguiars products but am going to try Pinnacle Souveran.
    You'll notice in my description that you use a cellophane wrapper to check the surface for contaminants. Put 2 fingers in it and glide it across the surface. If you don't feel any then you're good and can either begin removing below the surface damage or go on to the "Paint Protection Process".

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    Yes when you first start to rub the bar across a particular area, you feel a little resistance. As you rub more it goes away and the bar just glides across the area. Kind of hard for me to describe but yes I could feel it working. Could be your car really didn't need to be clayed. Which would be a good thing...





    Quote Originally Posted by 01TriBlack
    Some great, great information! Thanks so much.

    When you all clay-bar the car, do you actually feel it's doing anything as you're actually clay-ing? I clay-barred my '96 once and kind of just shrugged, quitting after 1/2 the hood because I wasn't convinced it was doing anything. Was it?

    I've always used Meguiars products but am going to try Pinnacle Souveran.

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    Thanks Detailing Dude and Mick. I didn't feel any sort of resistance when I was claying the '96. So I may have lucked out and it really didn't need it. Phew. That seemed like a monumental job. I'll use the cellophane test on the '01. So I'm assuming if I feel nothing beneath my fingertips that are in the cellophane, that it doesn't require claying. Thatwould be a good thing.

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    Default I did the same thing clayed with Z-7 car wash mixed into water

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy
    I would think lubrication might be the issue. I used the Zaino bar last summer. They said for a lubricant, use 1/2 capful of car wash to 12 oz. water in a spray bottle and keep the area you are working on lubricated well. I don't see how you could get enough lubrication with the detailing spray (even if Meguiars says to).


    Guy
    This was recommended by the Zaino site. Now I notice most companies are making lubricant sprays are these better? I was told that car wash soap will break down the claybar faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by V..rroom
    where can one get the microfibre towels...I have purchased some here at walmart but they are small hand towels and I'm not sure of the thread count...they work fine but a larger size would be great...is there an online store for detailing stuff??
    They are yellow in color

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    How does one find your web site?
    I'm a new comer to detailing.
    Thanks,
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    Default Liquid Clay Bar?

    OK, I'll ask.
    Has anyone tried Turtle Wax Liquid Clay Bar yet? I've got a bottle that's just waiting for the weather to cool a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cenzo View Post
    OK, I'll ask.
    Has anyone tried Turtle Wax Liquid Clay Bar yet? I've got a bottle that's just waiting for the weather to cool a bit.
    Yep,And I like it!!!I've been using a conventional Clay Bar with liquid ICE Polish until last Saturday!!!I used the Liquid I clay bar and then threw the old one away!!The Liquid Ice Clay bar is really easy to use,it only took me about 2 hrs to do the Whole car Bumpers, Rockers and all!!!

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    Thanks, Jesse.
    That's quite an endorsement from an experienced Clay Bar Guy.
    Suddenly I feel inspired! Early Saturday or Sunday morning could be the right time to give it a try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmjunkie View Post
    Yep,And I like it!!!I've been using a conventional Clay Bar with liquid ICE Polish until last Saturday!!!I used the Liquid I clay bar and then threw the old one away!!The Liquid Ice Clay bar is really easy to use,it only took me about 2 hrs to do the Whole car Bumpers, Rockers and all!!!

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    I'm a little surprised that it takes 2 hours. I have been a clay bar user for a very long time, and it doesn't take any time at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GS Diva View Post
    I'm a little surprised that it takes 2 hours. I have been a clay bar user for a very long time, and it doesn't take any time at all.

    Elaine
    Elaine, have you accounted for the Brew Factor?
    Some require a beer-break after working each major body part.
    E.G., 1 fender - 1 beer, 1 hood - 1 beer etc. This adds considerably to the overall time factor. Actual polishing time maybe 30 minutes or less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cenzo View Post
    Elaine, have you accounted for the Brew Factor?
    Some require a beer-break after working each major body part.
    E.G., 1 fender - 1 beer, 1 hood - 1 beer etc. This adds considerably to the overall time factor. Actual polishing time maybe 30 minutes or less.
    Ahhhh... that's what I didn't factor into the total clay bar time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GS Diva View Post
    I'm a little surprised that it takes 2 hours. I have been a clay bar user for a very long time, and it doesn't take any time at all.

    Elaine
    Elaine,I'm sure not any of your cars have ever been Exposed to the Kind of elements that Yevette was exposed to the last year!! It had been almost a Year since it had been Really polished up!!(A couple month's before Rascals fall Dragon Run!!))It set out in the weather All Winter and All summer with only a hand wash when needed!! It had some Nasty Deposits!!
    I had to do the Hood,Top,and Deck twice to get it to my satisfaction!!!

    I'm really Surprised it didn't take me all day just to clay bar it!!!

    And then I put the Icing on the Cake!!!
    2 hr's ain't bad to Clay bar and put some perfection on!!!
    I've been using Liquid Ice Polish for over a year and I've noticed that even the Florida Love bugs don't stick near as bad or etch into the paint nearly as bad either!! But I'm done with the Z now and she has her spot back in the garage!!!

    PS. "cenzo" I don't drink while I work on Cars!! But I do however have a occasional Smoke Break!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gmjunkie View Post
    Elaine,I'm sure not any of your cars have ever been Exposed to the Kind of elements that Yevette was exposed to the last year!! It had been almost a Year since it had been Really polished up!!(A couple month's before Rascals fall Dragon Run!!))It set out in the weather All Winter and All summer with only a hand wash when needed!! It had some Nasty Deposits!!
    I had to do the Hood,Top,and Deck twice to get it to my satisfaction!!!

    I'm really Surprised it didn't take me all day just to clay bar it!!!

    And then I put the Icing on the Cake!!!
    2 hr's ain't bad to Clay bar and put some perfection on!!!
    I've been using Liquid Ice Polish for over a year and I've noticed that even the Florida Love bugs don't stick near as bad or etch into the paint nearly as bad either!! But I'm done with the Z now and she has her spot back in the garage!!!

    PS. "cenzo" I don't drink while I work on Cars!! But I do however have a occasional Smoke Break!!
    Actually, I was thinking just that...that your car probably had been exposed to all kinds of elements where my Corvettes aren't. Glad the claybar part of detailing worked very well!

    Elaine

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmjunkie View Post
    Yep,And I like it!!!I've been using a conventional Clay Bar with liquid ICE Polish until last Saturday!!!I used the Liquid I clay bar and then threw the old one away!!The Liquid Ice Clay bar is really easy to use,it only took me about 2 hrs to do the Whole car Bumpers, Rockers and all!!!

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    I am going to rely on gmjunkie's advice. I tried the T wax ice by itself and found it to be terrible. It streaked and did not shine. 6shooter told me to let it dry longer than what is written on the label and use a microfiber towel. I use Zaino products and their clay bar on my vettes and they look great and so easy. But I want to try the TwaxIce on my blazers to see how it works if I do it correctly. So I went out and purchased the liquid clay bar and still have quite a bit of Ice. gmjunkie has posted pics of his work with the Ice, and I was impressed. Since he has never steered anyone wrong on the forum, I will try the stuff, hopefully this weekend. The bottle of liquid clay bar did not say to use a mircrofiber towel, nor did it say use a white cotton towel. But the print was small and I will have to read the label again.

    Question for Mr. Junk - do you use a regular towel, microfiber towel, or something else for the Ice and the Liquid Clay Bar, or can you use the same kind of towel for each? Thanks for sharing your expertise.

    Barrett

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