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    Would anyone buy an electric Vette?

    Say it is fuel cell equipped and hydrogen fed with enough amps to power two electric motors - 250 HP in the rear and 150 HP in the front - fully drive-by-wire All-Wheel-Drive with all the other goodies (ABS, Traction Control, Active Handling, MagRide, etc.) - enough fuel to go 300 miles between refueling - and still carry enough luggage for a week's road trip and your helmet(s)?

    It could even look like a "mid-engine" car (I'm thinking Corvette GTP from the '80s or the new ALMS Corvette EVO).

    Would anyone buy something like that?
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    I used to have one, but on somewhat smaller scale. It was a slot car that I raced on our office floor while in graduate school. Lots of fun. Of course it was red, and was a midyear coupe.
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    If it handled, braked and accelerated like a c6 I'd buy one ....as long as it cost the same 46 grand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBsC5 View Post
    If it handled, braked and accelerated like a c6 I'd buy one ....as long as it cost the same 46 grand.
    That's me too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Vette View Post
    I used to have one, but on somewhat smaller scale. It was a slot car that I raced on our office floor while in graduate school. Lots of fun. Of course it was red, and was a midyear coupe.
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    I have a couple of electric Vettes also but 1/10 scale and only one motor. They're pretty cool but....
    Now, if we had a full size one for a reasonable price, that would be something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuna View Post
    Would anyone buy an electric Vette?

    Say it is fuel cell equipped and hydrogen fed with enough amps to power two electric motors - 250 HP in the rear and 150 HP in the front - fully drive-by-wire All-Wheel-Drive with all the other goodies (ABS, Traction Control, Active Handling, MagRide, etc.) - enough fuel to go 300 miles between refueling - and still carry enough luggage for a week's road trip and your helmet(s)?

    It could even look like a "mid-engine" car (I'm thinking Corvette GTP from the '80s or the new ALMS Corvette EVO).

    Would anyone buy something like that?
    I know a little something about batteries have worked for a battery company and they have a long way to go to meet the performance expectations of Corvette owners.

    While there are some advantages to electric motors, batteries are expensive, have relatively short lives, and are heavy for the amount of energy they store. Another thing is in a small Corvette, where would you put a 800-1,000 lbs battery and motor?

    It is no secret that weight has a lot to do with fuel economy. I would prefer leaving electric vehicles to economy commuter vehicles and look at other ways to improve the Corvette performance such as smaller, lighter, smaller turbo engine or diesel powered.

    Has anyone looked into Flywheel technology? I pass it off initially but upon hearing that Formula 1 race cars will start using Flywheels next year, I did some research. In the F1 cars, they plan to add a 2 kg flywheel that spins at 60,000 rpm in a vacuum. Energy is stored on braking into a corner then released upon exiting thru a simple set of clutches and gears. No batteries to wear out, complex electronics, or extra weight of electric motors. The article I saw claimed a 35% increase in fuel economy for F1 cars. In stop-and-go traffic, this could greatly increase fuel economy in a very simple and long service life package.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mez View Post
    Has anyone looked into Flywheel technology? I pass it off initially but upon hearing that Formula 1 race cars will start using Flywheels next year, I did some research. In the F1 cars, they plan to add a 2 kg flywheel that spins at 60,000 rpm in a vacuum. Energy is stored on braking into a corner then released upon exiting thru a simple set of clutches and gears. No batteries to wear out, complex electronics, or extra weight of electric motors. The article I saw claimed a 35% increase in fuel economy for F1 cars. In stop-and-go traffic, this could greatly increase fuel economy in a very simple and long service life package.
    I've noticed that also and it could show promise for increasing the fuel efficiency of the Vette without any other major compromises.

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    With the cost of gasoline rising (i remember it being 50-60c/liter about 5 or 6 years ago) we might not have much of a choice. If Exxon and friends wouldnt mind reducing their 15-20billion profit margins to help us out, that would be great.

    In any event everyone has a DD and i think we'll see more electric ones around in not too long. The car companies wont let themselves go out of business by not introducing electric vehicles and sticking with combustion. Eventually the technology will find its way to the faster cars.

    If you can afford the Vette you can afford the gas, although i dont know how long ill be able to say that comfortably

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vettepirate View Post
    With the cost of gasoline rising (i remember it being 50-60c/liter about 5 or 6 years ago) we might not have much of a choice. If Exxon and friends wouldnt mind reducing their 15-20billion profit margins to help us out, that would be great.

    In any event everyone has a DD and i think we'll see more electric ones around in not too long. The car companies wont let themselves go out of business by not introducing electric vehicles and sticking with combustion. Eventually the technology will find its way to the faster cars.

    If you can afford the Vette you can afford the gas, although i dont know how long ill be able to say that comfortably
    It is a fact that the oil companies are doing lots of R&D into alternative energy because they know the oil supplies are running out and there is more and more demand for energy. I know they must be looking at producing the compounds necessary for the next generation rechargeable batteries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vettepirate View Post
    If Exxon and friends wouldnt mind reducing their 15-20billion profit
    Last year Exxon profitted to the tune of $45 million.......$45,000,000.00 and all the oil representatives who responded to questions before Congress supported their huge profits. I remember their answers before they appeared before Congress and they were all crying poor-mouth. I recently retired, set income, 2% increase every year, and I will never see that kind of money let alone 1% of it as profit. Ok, I'm done crying, now I'm .

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwing View Post
    Last year Exxon profitted to the tune of $45 million.......$45,000,000.00 and all the oil representatives who responded to questions before Congress supported their huge profits. I remember their answers before they appeared before Congress and they were all crying poor-mouth. I recently retired, set income, 2% increase every year, and I will never see that kind of money let alone 1% of it as profit. Ok, I'm done crying, now I'm .
    What does the public want them to say? "We made WAY TOO MUCH" profit and want to give it back". How much did they reinvest in increasing production and finding new oil fields? What was their % Net Income to Sales? RONA?

    The price of oil is market driven. Supply and Demand. If this country was serious about reducing oil consumption, why has it not asked its citizens to voluntarily cut back? People here in Texas all drive huge pick up trucks or SUV's. The something like 5 of the top 10 vehicles sold in the US are either pick up trucks or SUV. Gee, do you think THAT has any impact on the price of oil?? Reducing the miles driven each month, driving slower, timing trips to avoid rush hour, good driving habits to improve mileage, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mez View Post
    What does the public want them to say? "We made WAY TOO MUCH" profit and want to give it back". How much did they reinvest in increasing production and finding new oil fields? What was their % Net Income to Sales? RONA?

    The price of oil is market driven. Supply and Demand. If this country was serious about reducing oil consumption, why has it not asked its citizens to voluntarily cut back? People here in Texas all drive huge pick up trucks or SUV's. The something like 5 of the top 10 vehicles sold in the US are either pick up trucks or SUV. Gee, do you think THAT has any impact on the price of oil?? Reducing the miles driven each month, driving slower, timing trips to avoid rush hour, good driving habits to improve mileage, etc.
    Whoa! I was only venting. I know that all oil companies have an R&D division and it takes $$ to make $$.

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    I know. I wish gas was back to $.19/gallon, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuna View Post
    Would anyone buy an electric Vette?

    Say it is fuel cell equipped and hydrogen fed with enough amps to power two electric motors - 250 HP in the rear and 150 HP in the front - fully drive-by-wire All-Wheel-Drive with all the other goodies (ABS, Traction Control, Active Handling, MagRide, etc.) - enough fuel to go 300 miles between refueling - and still carry enough luggage for a week's road trip and your helmet(s)?

    It could even look like a "mid-engine" car (I'm thinking Corvette GTP from the '80s or the new ALMS Corvette EVO).

    Would anyone buy something like that?
    I see this original thread was awhile back but has relvce. now so it seems to me. I think I would buy one. If Vette is going to evolve, then it has to go somewhere (alternate means of power/powerplant). I think electric is probably the way to go. If new technologies are developed for electric power generation....I'm no expert, but Euro's just tested one (elect) 200 mph.....

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    Travel down "route 66" in your electric Vette ($250,000).
    Re-charge at the Holiday Inn if you're lucky!

    But at 250mph it should only take a few minutes.

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