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04-28-05, 06:26 PM
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My Corvette(s): 1990 ZR-1 #312 triple black | Helms, GM, Chilton, or Other??
I'm just wondering what is the best manual for C4's. I have the GM Service Manuals for my car. They were purchased by the previous owner. I have heard others here talking about the Helms manuals and the Chilton manuals. I don't have much mechanical experience, but other than engine work, and due to financial concerns, I want to do some of the other work that may need to be done on my vette and I don't want anything too technical. My GM Service Manual is kinda technical and I think it assumes the person working on the car knows more than I do.
Any suggestions here??
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04-28-05, 06:30 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hermosa Beach, CA
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My Corvette(s): 1987 Z51 Silver Coupe |
I prefer the Helms books.
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04-28-05, 06:52 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Maryland
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My Corvette(s): 1995 White Coupe LT-1 Auto | Service manuals
The Helms and GM are the same. The Chiltons is OK but if you already have the GM manuals, save your money. Don't use the Hay...s manuals available at Pep Boys, etc. I've been led astray and ruined parts following that manual's instructions.
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04-28-05, 07:52 PM
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My Corvette(s): 84 Coupe |
I have them all...one can never have too much information
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04-29-05, 07:45 AM
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My Corvette(s): 1988 & 2006 Coupes | Quote: |
Originally Posted by jmccloud The Helms and GM are the same. . |  Everyone calls it the Helms manual.
Helms is only the authorized publisher of the GM service manual: The one with the red cover.
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04-29-05, 08:03 AM
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My Corvette(s): 1990 Bk/Gy ZR-1, #2233 |
I'm a rookie C4 owner & I'd be lost  without my Helm/GM manuals! I'll say that the genuine GM manuals I had for my 72 taught me enough to do a complete mechanical resto on an abused LT-1 & it all came out very well for me not being a mechanic. At least I feel the manuals gave enough info for me to know what was wrong and what to do to fix the problem. That's better than not being able to figure out what's wrong even if the fix is beyond your mechanical skills, if you know what should be done you're miles ahead! JMHO, Tom.
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04-29-05, 08:43 AM
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My Corvette(s): 1990 ZR-1 #312 triple black | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Wayne88  Everyone calls it the Helms manual.
Helms is only the authorized publisher of the GM service manual: The one with the red cover. | Thanks for clearing that up for me. I must already have the correct manuals then!  There's at least some money that I won't need to spend.
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04-29-05, 11:33 AM
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My Corvette(s): 1996 Black Coupe LT1 |
I have all 3; Helm is the absolute best, but it sometimes takes awhile to find what your looking for....sort of "how to build a watch when all I want is the time". I find the Haynes & Chilton good for a quick lookup, but when you really need to know everything about a particular item, Helm.
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04-29-05, 04:00 PM
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My Corvette(s): 1987 Z51 Silver Coupe | Quote: |
Originally Posted by DMGroh ... it sometimes takes awhile to find what your looking for | Oh yeah, it can be a bit frustrating when it comes to that. Sometimes I'll be looking for something and not find it, then later I discover that something, along with a ton of other useful information that I didn't initially take into consideration, or couldn't find the first time I looked. | |
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04-29-05, 06:32 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Baton Rouge/LSU
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My Corvette(s): 1986 White Coupe w all options. |
Helm=GM, they are the same manual.
Chilton's and others may be good for a couple things, and pictures, however the instructions are best from Helm, 98% of the time.
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05-02-05, 03:40 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hawaii,Maui,Lahaina
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My Corvette(s): 1994 Red vert 1986 Blue Silver vette coupe |
I have the GM and Chiltons, the engine rebuild manuels aftermarket also.
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05-02-05, 05:06 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Netherlands , Europe
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My Corvette(s): 1986 Black Coupe RPO Z51 |
I have the Haynes, and helped me out lots of times now.(electrical schemes)
some idiot -who owned the car before me- installed a aftermarket rubbish alarm system.
he/she F**** up the complete wiring harness and gave lots of electrical problems. (ghosts in my system  )
but thanks for the tip in this Helms manual, will order 1 today.
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05-02-05, 09:23 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ankara TURKEY
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My Corvette(s): 1995 6 Speed Manual Coupe |
Haynes & Chilton's are to be used for general information only. Both are very poor in chasis repairs. I have them both. I am hearing Helmes is really precise and that is what one needs to perform actual repairs from.
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05-02-05, 09:29 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ohio
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My Corvette(s): '62 '65 White '89 |
In addition, I have found the illustrations in the Parts manual helpful as a supplement to the illustrations in the GM.Helms service manual.
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