5 Speed for the 65

[Sky65]

I have been looking for a 5 speed trans for my 65. I have decided on the Doug Nash or Richmond. I already have a 3:08 rear so the gear ratios will work well for me. I understand Richmond bought out Doug Nash and now make that trans. Are the new Richmonds the same as an old Doug Nash? Is there a way to identify each brand?

Thanks
Tom

[Gerry]

Check out the Keisler and save yourself headaches.



Best regards,

Gerry

[SebringBill]

I've had no headaches at all with my Richmond and 3:08 - but then, they're installed in one of them analog type Solid Axle Corvettes.

[Gerry]

I believe that to install the richmond or tremec 5 spd in a 63-67 requires fabrication. The Keisler will bolt in as all the fab work has been done. Also the gearing is excellent for the midyears and it can take up to 650 HP. Check out their website.

Best regards,
Gerry

[Viet Nam Vett]

Originally Posted by Gerry

I believe that to install the richmond or tremec 5 spd in a 63-67 requires fabrication. The Keisler will bolt in as all the fab work has been done. Also the gearing is excellent for the midyears and it can take up to 650 HP. Check out their website.

Best regards,
Gerry

Yep the Keisler is the way to go ...I have one in my 65 "Prostitute Wagon"....
Willfully Have Overhauled / Reconfigured Everything

( That's for you Oman)...

Saves you all the trouble of hacking up your car...It's complete from soup to nuts

[BLACK MOON]

I have a new Keisler that I will sell. My project is a long way from needing a drivetrain. No 3-4 month wait.

[Sky65]

I like the gear ratios in the Richmond. A close ratio set up rather than a wide ratio and overdrive in the Keisler. As I understand it the only modification is the trans mount. Stock driveshaft (dual sized u-joint), stock gm fine spline clutch, hurst shifter through the stock hole in the floor (no enlarging of hole) no mods to the console and if one wanted, a stock appearing shift lever. I also hope to do the whole deal with a used trans and shifter for under $1600. I let you all know how I make out.

[Verle]

Originally Posted by Sky65

I like the gear ratios in the Richmond. A close ratio set up rather than a wide ratio and overdrive in the Keisler. As I understand it the only modification is the trans mount. Stock driveshaft (dual sized u-joint), stock gm fine spline clutch, hurst shifter through the stock hole in the floor (no enlarging of hole) no mods to the console and if one wanted, a stock appearing shift lever. I also hope to do the whole deal with a used trans and shifter for under $1600. I let you all know how I make out.

I installed an early Doug Nash 5 speed in my 57. It was a very tight fit, but it did fit and worked very well with my 3.08. Unfortunately it failed on a long drive at highway speed (several hundred miles at 70 mph). Second gear seized on the main shaft. Doug Nash 5 speeds have brass bushings inside the gears and that is what seized on mine. I had no problems with numerous short drives and hard runs.

Richmond has redone the Doug Nash design and manufactures them with needle bearings in the gears. That eliminates my problem. A Doug Nash can be upgraded to the new bearing type gears but that requires replacing most everything in the case and costs about the same as a new transmission.

My inclination now is to go with the Kinsler conversion.

Verle