C6 Corvette? Where? Oh. That thing?

[18 with a C5. Damn.]

As I come to find out, I'm not the only one who is upset by the new body style of the upcoming C6 Vette. It seems that GM is following in the footsteps of a good number of car companies. Sadly, that trend is substituting sleek, stylish curves for computer generated straight lines. To quote a reader response from Road & Track, "What Dave Hill ought to do is spend some bucks and do some focus groups with former/current Corvette owners and see what we'd like for a next-generation Vette. (Mike Langieri)" I believe this to be an excellent idea. If GM is looking for a more futuristic body, I suggest taking a look at the 1998 Calloway C12 (http://www.plattsville.demon.co.uk/mypics/second/Image8.jpg). This is an excellent interpretation of the C5, and the only major deviation aside from body style is the lack of the four oval lights on back. At the age of 18, my experience with Vettes may not be as much as many owners, but i do feel that I represent an upcoming generation of Vette owners. If the body style of the C6 is any indication of the future GM has planned for the Corvette, I would hate to see the C7 and beyond.

[Rick Daniel]

http://www.corvettesbyrickdaniel.com/ROAD___TRACK_CUT_OUT.jpg

No a bad looking car IMHO. :)

[18 with a C5. Damn.]

I think you're opinion is a little bit influenced though, considering you're trying to sell them.

[Rick Daniel]

I`m a Corvette enthusiast first and then a sales person. :)

[18 with a C5. Damn.]

well that's the important thing

[vetteZ06dream]

oops, i posted a mistake, i misread what u said

[LT1Vettepilot]

Originally posted by Rick Daniel
http://www.corvettesbyrickdaniel.com/ROAD___TRACK_CUT_OUT.jpg

No a bad looking car IMHO. :)

Anyone else see the resemblence with the Nissan 350Z?

[JBsC5]

This photo has a lot more that is inaccurate than accurate..

Don't sweat it..the C6 is a stunning design..

[18 with a C5. Damn.]

Yes. It certainly is stunning. That's for sure. But this isn't stunning-like you've just seen the Mona Lisa-stunning. No. This is more stunning-like you've just had a cold metal rod inserted into your rectum-stunning. I think that describes it accurately enough.



:_rock

[Evolution1980]

Originally posted by LT1Vettepilot
Anyone else see the resemblence with the Nissan 350Z?

My thoughts EXACTLY!!!

I think it's pretty gross. I'm still barely warmed up to the look of the C5, let alone what this 'thing' is looking like. Chevy oughta be a bit more serious and get back to the drawing board. Or, go back a few steps and take the CERV-IV Indy 500 model. This new 'preview' design is uglier then the '03 Viper!

[rdgfx3]

This is not *really*happening,is it?

[18 with a C5. Damn.]

sadly. yes. may god help us.


:hb

[sscam69]

looks like a computer generated image just like the ones that I have seen for the "new" camaro thats nots suppose to be happening:eyerole

[18 with a C5. Damn.]

The actual photos of the C6 are no more astounding than the computer generated ones.

[sscam69]

I am one of those "I'll believe it when I see it", so until it makes headlines across all magazines "THE NEW C6" then I'll believe it, until then.......

[rdgfx3]

Well,maybe it looks better in person.Sometimes pictures can't do justice,ya know.:Twist

[sscam69]

yeah I agree on that to.

The C5 is just barely growing on me, with some nice rims and some ground effects they look awesome!!

We'll see how the C6 turns out. Actually the car in that pic doesn't look bad. Its got a kinda European car taste to it!

[18 with a C5. Damn.]

I think the European taste the C6 may seem to have is part of the problem. It's an American sports car.

[jim coulter]

Please tell me that the red "thing" in that photo was "not" a corvette. Please....:puke :cry

[Bullitt]

The last thing GM needs to do is spend money on "focus groups." All it tends to do is water down the product, like the RX-7....er... NSX... er.....I mean, C5 for example. GM needs to let the designers exercise their creative talents and then, see what is doable.

--Bullitt

[JBsC5]

The Red thing is not the next vette..

Have a good one!

[CorvetteArchives]

Originally posted by JBsC5
The Red thing is not the next vette..

Have a good one!


CAN there EVER be a post on this topic where someone "in the know" insists differently? I remember someone ranting about how great and different the Z06 styling would be.....end result a slightly more interesting c5 (which isnt saying much!)

I like the way people are being more critical and suggestive nowadays. Its VERY POSITIVE in its Negativity! :D
Previously, It seemed like people were willing to accept any design GM threw out. On some other boards constructive criticism getts u flamed as being "Un Corvette" by the image zealots. Refreshing to see such openness here!!

[geekracer]

Originally posted by LT1Vettepilot
Anyone else see the resemblence with the Nissan 350Z? Yes

[vettepilot]

Originally posted by 18 with a C5. Damn.
Yes. It certainly is stunning. That's for sure. But this isn't stunning-like you've just seen the Mona Lisa-stunning. No. This is more stunning-like you've just had a cold metal rod inserted into your rectum-stunning. I think that describes it accurately enough.



:_rock

OK, don't sugar coat it, how do you really feel?

vettepilot

[SNTFCE]

Remember, GM has to sell as many of the final year C5s as possible so they need to 'float' out spy shots/rumors about how horrid this atrocity labeled as a C6 looks (remember, GM can always back up the good looks of the real C6 by stating that we have been listening to rumors). I hope that I am correct and that GM superiors are laughing at our comments about the new Nissan (shown in previous posts with a Corvette emblem slapped on it). I'm currently living in the midwest and you see ricers slapping BMW emblems on their Hondas and Fords (if I follow the logic in some of the C6 posts does this mean the above mentioned ricers are really driving prototypes of a new beamer in a Ford/Honda disquise)? I don't know about the rest of you, but this type of thinking is the only thing keeping me from abandoning my plan of waiting for a C6 and going for either a C5 or SLK32 AMG. Keep the faith, there are still a few of us that are naive enough to think that GM will see the light.

[JBsC5]

The new C6 will outperform the present level Z06 and the high performance version will be even more outstanding.

As far as this drawing being accurate..

Thats a good laugh..

Enjoy your hatred of it guys because its not what the car will be..

:lol:

[Evolution1980]

JBsC5,

Let's pretend I'm from Missouri. Why? Because it's the "Show Me" state... :)

[22229stingray81]

PLEASE GM, DONT TAKE AWAY MY POP UP LIGHTS!

[vette-dude]

Looks like a mustang on Steroids!!!!!!!!!!!:cry

[84Vette]

First off For all you who don't like the C5 i recomend you read all corvettes are red!! Then after that come back here and say you don't like it. I didn't like it but it sure grew on me. second after you read that book take a look at the pic of what the C6 is suppose to be then open All corvettes are red book and look at all the clown suits now then either GM wanted to get some people out of their hair, or car and driver dug through some trash, or car and driver has some stunning spies now which do you think it is?

[18 with a C5. Damn.]

i have no idea what that last reply was supposed to mean. i can guess, but i'd probably be way off.

[SNTFCE]

Did you read the book 'All Corvettes Are Red'? Once you read this book you will have a greater appreciation of what went into that C5 you're driving (along with the knowledge of what a clown-suit is). Happy reading!

[18 with a C5. Damn.]

I'm sure it's an excellent book, but for me, there's no greater way to appreciate a good car than by sitting behind the wheel.

[84Vette]

SNTFCE,
Just take a look at his name, Shrug sholders, and Walk away. His Daddy and mommy bought his car and more than likely pay his insurance bills so i wouldn't really worry about him. I am Sure he like the car ONLY because it is a corvette. And he probably doesn't know the History Behind it. All that just coming from his last post.

[18 with a C5. Damn.]

actually, if you wanna be a smartass about it, i pay my own insurance, and i put the downpayment down. i started working at 12, getting paid 'under the counter'. i am still working, and every one of my paychecks has either gone into a savings account or into stocks and bonds. i have payment plans to my parents for the rest of the car, and the instant i don't make payments, the car will be sold. and another thing, i have had a desire and an appreciation for the corvette since i was old enough to know what a car was. i grew up around my dad's 427 stingray. i've read everything i can get my hands on (except all corvettes are red). i've been to the corvette museum numerous times, and i attend all possible shows and drags. i'm a registered member of the texas corvette club. so don't tell me i just wanted it for the name. i wanted it because of what it represents. the c5 was the next generation in a tradition of automotive craftsmanship. so don't try hating on me or my integrity surrounding corvettes.

oh, and the quote u have at the bottom. it's from fast and the furious. rice burners and vette's don't mix. :r

[Yoda]

Originally posted by 84Vette
SNTFCE,
Just take a look at his name, Shrug sholders, and Walk away. His Daddy and mommy bought his car and more than likely pay his insurance bills so i wouldn't really worry about him. I am Sure he like the car ONLY because it is a corvette. And he probably doesn't know the History Behind it. All that just coming from his last post.

84Vette :nono Your Comment is WAY out of line here. I don't know nor do I care why you decided to take this personal shot at another member,,, but BE WARNED! Leave it outside the Corvette Action Center Community.. Your unprovoked comments are uncalled for and will not be tolerated here!

Bud Dougherty
Forum Administrator

[Nige]

Thanks Bud!

For one moment there I thought I was back at alt.autos.corvette!!

[Black Ice]

There is a better sketch in CorvetteForum in the C6 section. This is a real close to C6 pic. It is however close to the R&T photo pictured here. Yes indeed it looks like C6 will be an ugly car.

[sscam69]

For one moment there I thought I was back at alt.autos.corvette!!

I agree, I surf LS1.com for info on my future car (C5 or Trans Am), and I see enough of flame wars and direct insults.

This is the one place where I don't see that crap and I don't feel like and idiot for asking a perfectly legit question, get questioned about everything I do and not embarrased to ask something I don't know about, even tho it my seem insignificant to others.

THATS WHY I LOVE IT HERE AND I KEEP COMING BACK!!

18 with a C5. Damn. it sounds like you've worked for what you got and I respect that ALOT trust me, even though I have an older shark as young as I am (23) I still get funny looks sometimes and I might be in a C5 in another year or so and I can only imagine the looks I'll get then. Props to you!

[sscam69]

Now back to the C6

whats this about VVT and 500hp!!:eek

Imagine thousands of camshaft profiles on one car!!:eek

I mean think about it idles like a kitten but is making outrageous power on top...Move over VTEC :L

[DavidWP]

The link below is a web page I put together showing all the significant speculation concerning the appearance of the C6:

C6 Speculation Summary (http://palmeter.com/CorvetteTimelineW11P03.htm)

The versions below are the ones that most Corvette owners seem to like, particularly the coupe:

http://palmeter.com/C6Spc10.jpg

Enjoy! (Or worry more, whichever is your predilection.)

David :D :D

[Evolution1980]

Interesting link you've got there.

At least the artist conceptions don't look as fugly as C&D's rendering. Although I think I'm always going to have a problem with that Pontiac Salsa Sunfire Orange color. I always thought Pontiacs to be on the tacky side of the design spectrum. Always putting on that clunky 5¢ body trim that never looked like it fit right. That and this new disposition towards unnecessary(?) body creases á la Ford Cougar or the new Caddies.

As long as it's closer in performance to the new Viper than the Mustang SVT Cobra.

I think it's going to be a long time before they get a style that EVERYONE likes. I pretty much dealt with ever style up to C5. Even the C5 I'm still not a huge fan of. Needs to many refinements for my liking. I don't think the C6 is going to be much better. In general, I don't think there are many cars at all brand new that I find attractive. I'm just not down with the current schooling concept of mixing curves and creases.

GM should just release the CERV IV and be done with it. A mid-engine vette using the Northstar engine. Or Lingenfelter's 427.

[Rob]

Originally posted by Nige
Thanks Bud!

For one moment there I thought I was back at alt.autos.corvette!!

No, this is not alt.autos.corvette.

While I don't mind a little speculation, I do ask that everyone remain careful with it. Speculation leads to rumors and in most cases, rumors could not be further from the truth. That is counterproductive to what this site stands for.

Other Corvette related web sites may bask in the glory and sunshine created by the amount of traffic that C6 rumors and lies create; I on the other hand, do not.

If you want to post constructive criticism about what direction you may think the C6 is taking, be my guest. Do not, post insults or inflammatory comments. If you feel that strongly about the C6 and feel that you can make a difference in the course of development that it takes, then contact Chevrolet Customer Assistance and ask them if you can apply for a job.

Last but not least, I would ask you to read: What is the Corvette Action Center (http://corvetteactioncenter.com/modules.php?s=&name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=13) and scroll to the last few paragraphs at the bottom.

[Rick Daniel]

Guys Guys Guys. The pix is a computer generated pix by R&T and could or COULD NOT be anywhere close to the real thing. The Gen. is going to keep the C6 very close to his vest until shortly before its time for all of us to see it. I think we all should revel in the new technology that is due to be realesed in the C6 and wait to see what the design will be. One thing is FOR SURE. Every C6 built will sell with no problem as every other Corvette that has ever been built has. I try very hard to stay on top of what is coming up for the C6 and the best info available that I can find can be viewed here. Make sure you see BOTH pages.

http://www.corvettesbyrickdaniel.com/C6INFO.html

Dont worry so much about the pix and revel in the technology. :)

[Red73BB]

Being a creature of habit, I don't necessary like change. I'm old enough to remember the '67 to '68 body style change. I hated it! Now I think the C3 is the one of the best looking of the lot (a bit bias) My point is the C6 will will grow on you, give it some time. When the C7 arrives someday, everyone will want the C6 back :)
Gary

[JBsC5]

Originally posted by DavidWP
The link below is a web page I put together showing all the significant speculation concerning the appearance of the C6:

C6 Speculation Summary (http://palmeter.com/CorvetteTimelineW11P03.htm)

The versions below are the ones that most Corvette owners seem to like, particularly the coupe:

http://palmeter.com/C6Spc10.jpg

Enjoy! (Or worry more, whichever is your predilection.)

David :D :D

I dig that concept that your showing...the orange one is cool.

Thanks

JB

[Rob]

Originally posted by Red73BB
Being a creature of habit, I don't necessary like change. I'm old enough to remember the '67 to '68 body style change. I hated it! Now I think the C3 is the one of the best looking of the lot (a bit bias) My point is the C6 will will grow on you, give it some time. When the C7 arrives someday, everyone will want the C6 back :)
Gary

This is actually a very good point. I really liked the C4's wedge shape and styling. When the C5 came out, I was very mixed on it. I felt slightly dissapointed that a lot of the edges had been smoothed and rounded and I was afraid that it was going to gradually evolve into another egg-shaped vehicle like all the rest on the road.

However, it grew on me....and kept on growing to the point where now, I find most C4s boring to look at. The C5 has REALLY grown on me and I now love the car from every single angle.

[sscam69]

Rick Daniel

I have a question in regards to how the new C6 will affect prices on C5's.

I am planning on buying either a WS6 Trans Am or a ZO6 in about another year and a half. Thats going to be really close to the release date of the C6.

How will this affect the prices on the C5's New and Used?

Do you know more or less how much these new C6's are going to run for?

Thanks

Frank

[Viper 10]

Originally posted by Bullitt
The last thing GM needs to do is spend money on "focus groups." All it tends to do is water down the product, like the RX-7....er... NSX... er.....I mean, C5 for example. GM needs to let the designers exercise their creative talents and then, see what is doable.

--Bullitt

I disagree Bullitt, because I've been involved with several focus groups over the years (including the Viper, GT-40, C5, and the Nissan Z). The manufactures need the honest feedback before they go out and make some serious blunders. I have seen 2 occasions where the feedback from the focus groups changed the manufacturer's decision to release a car.

By the way, I am very disappointed with the C6 designs that I have seen. Nisssan and Toyota have readily admitted that they copied the design of the Audi TT. I hope that GM doesn't do to the Corvette, what DC is doing to the Viper.

JMO.

Brad

[Rick Daniel]

Originally posted by sscam69
Rick Daniel

I have a question in regards to how the new C6 will affect prices on C5's.

I am planning on buying either a WS6 Trans Am or a ZO6 in about another year and a half. Thats going to be really close to the release date of the C6.

How will this affect the prices on the C5's New and Used?

Do you know more or less how much these new C6's are going to run for?

Thanks

Frank

I wished I knew the ans. to these questions. Their are so many other things that will have a barring on these issues that it would be impossible to say.

Rick

[Last Ride]

Originally posted by 18 with a C5. Damn.
sadly. yes. may god help us.


:hb

How is it that you are so sure? Have you seen the real C6? That picture is NOT EVEN CLOSE from what I have heard. Did I miss the C6 spy shot or what?

[vettepilot]

Originally posted by sscam69
Rick Daniel

I have a question in regards to how the new C6 will affect prices on C5's.

I am planning on buying either a WS6 Trans Am or a ZO6 in about another year and a half. Thats going to be really close to the release date of the C6.

How will this affect the prices on the C5's New and Used?

Do you know more or less how much these new C6's are going to run for?

Thanks

Frank
Wait a minute, about that WS6 Trans Am... where do you plan on finding one of those? Wasn't the 2003 MY the last for the F Body cars, or are you talking about a previously owned car?
At any rate, I think you should purchase what you really want, (within your price range of course) and not try to second guess what the next market will be. What I'm really saying is don't worry about what the car will be worth after your purchase, but rather place the "fun factor" first because no "price" can be placed on that.
Just my two cents worth this morning.
vettepilot

[sscam69]

Thanks for the tip vettepilot

As far as the Trans-Am is concerned if am going to to buy it it is going to be used and would do it anyways because I am going to drop in an LS6 cam and all the typical bolt ons (i.e. headers, cold air intake etc). I have thought about buying a forumla and adding some rims and a body kit (no not the ricer kind) with the above mentioned mods. The forumlas are the basically the base coupe with the V8 option (i.e. no leather interior etc) I can save money that way.

I am going to buy the vette used. I have been looking at used vettes over the net and have found some pretty sweet deals. I am going to be adding performance enhancing parts as well. Thats why I am planning on buying it used, so that I don't feel bad about modifying a spanking brand new car.

The reason I was asking about prices with the new C6 coming out was because it just meant more money for mods:D

But yeah vette pilot theres the "fun factor" and I think that vette is going to give me more of that than the firebird and the car is a looker!

Frank

[vettepilot]

Sounds like you have great plan for both vehicles... I'm sure you will really enjoy either/and/ or both. It's really difficult to describe the "fun factor" to people that don't enjoy cars for the sport or fun.
Most just slog along and think that they have to drive something to work or the store and never redeem the pure enjoyment of a great handling, accelerating car, regardless of the marque.
Those are the people that can't understand our enthusiasm for cars and their respective capabilities... you have probably heard more than once "why do you spend so much for that thing, it doesn't even have a back seat".. or the other oft heard "where can you use all that horsepower on the public roads" or the infamous "where can you go 170 miles per hour around here" ?
It's not that we will go 170 MPH, it's that we could... LOL
Enjoy, and have a great Holiday Season.
vettepilot

[Justin_cv87]

I always thought the C5 was the nicest lookin car ever, but when i saw the older models, it changed my mind. I think the the C4 is the nicest looking, then the C3, then the C2 and C1 tied, and then last the C5. I see this C6, and, well, i dont want to say what i think because this is a corvette, it just took the wrong direction. IMHO it is copying forgien cars. I know that isnt what it will look like, hopefully, but if it does, well, atleast the C5 will be knocked up a ranking for its looks in my book. I think we should bring back the C2 or C3 body style, but with a modern twist to it! Who thinks that would be a good idea?

[wichitacorvette]

ok, besides the horrid, terrifying 350z, rx8, all aorund rice burner thing( that the only thing "corvette" abotu it is the red) i do like the blue and orange ones...... i lile the hatch window on the coupe.... almost split window w/o the split lol......... the c3 flares are undeniably cool, the tail end looks good again witht he c3's cruves behind the doors..... but the front end i think needs another gen's influence...... im not sure what would looks good..... maybe a less pointy version of a 2nd gen? ive even seen some designs w/chrome....... no no no..... leave chrome from corvettes back in the early years where they belong........

["94 Sixspeed]

It's time for the Vette to get that mid engine... It's been talked about for more than twenty years.. Time to do it... Maybe put the new 12 cylinder engine it as well... 750 Hp and about 2500lbs, of carbon fiber and titaneum...Now we are talking... Lose some of the luxery stuff, and return to the real white knuckes sports car concept...

[Remo]

"94 Sixspeed,

There's one luxury thing, in your case, that shouldn't be eliminated. The "traction control" system. A must - given how you like to drive in the snow.

Regards - Remo

["94 Sixspeed]

But the new vette should also be all wheel drive, so the traction control might be less important..

["94 Sixspeed]

But the new vette should also be all wheel drive, so the traction control might be less important..

[18 with a C5. Damn.]

I think the 12-cylinder would be a great addition to the new vette. Lets make it a viper-beater straight out of the factory.

[Brett]

That current picture of the C6 is awful. Looks far too much like an Audi TT, or Nissan Z.

C3's, C4's, and C5's were all low, long, and sharp profile cars. They all look fantastic, and they all make you think "Corvette"
. That is how a Corvette should be.

And '94sixspeed, I think you belong on a WRX forum or something. Corvette's are V8, front-rear cars. The second they change that, it's not a Corvette anymore.

All-wheel drive.......shouldn't people be banned for that? ;)



Brett

[ROCKETBLOCK]

Originally posted by Brett
That current picture of the C6 is awful. Looks far too much like an Audi TT, or Nissan Z.

C3's, C4's, and C5's were all low, long, and sharp profile cars. They all look fantastic, and they all make you think "Corvette"
. That is how a Corvette should be.

And '94sixspeed, I think you belong on a WRX forum or something. Corvette's are V8, front-rear cars. The second they change that, it's not a Corvette anymore.

All-wheel drive.......shouldn't people be banned for that? ;)


;stupid The new c6 will not dissapoint.